CyberMurph
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Quote And not to be suspicious or anything, but doesn't the Bush family have major interests in the defence industry? Quote
Ritter is bitter, angry, and making a buttload of $$$ on the talkshow circuit. Or is that too right field for ya?Why exactly is he bitter and angry again? It wouldn't have anything to do with the way the CIA bollixed up the whole weapons inspection thing in the first place, would it?
Of course, I say 'we', when I actually mean the rest of Europe.
Quote and fired missiles at Saudi Arabia and Israel. Also, I think that he will simply ignore all this UN pressure, as he has been doing for the past ten years, because despite fighting a war against him and maintaining years of punitive sanctions against Iraq, his grip on power is stronger now than it was when we first went after him.
Quote And one more thing. If by some miracle the inspectors get all of his stuff, how do you prevent him from getting more? He's not exactly an old man. He'll be around a while. You all just don't get it do you? He is a bigger danger to you all than he is to us. Well, if we are going to go to war against him, don't you think it would be an idea to try and get any of the stuff he already has?
Besides, I've yet to see any evidence that he's a danger to anyone outside his own country. I'm afraid that if you want me to believe that he has any weapons of mass destruction you're going to have to produce some credible evidence.
Quote But yes I agree, we should not fabricate a war. We should use the tried and true European method of mass graves and refugees before we do anything.... 
Then maybe we should be invading Israel/Palestine, then? Lots of massacres and refugees there.
OK genius. Answer me two questions.
Does the UN have intelligence collection assets?
How do the inpectors know where to look?
uh, gee, uh, my brain can't grasp the notion that the UN is an almost completely ineffectual organization with no ability to actually do anything...
OK, smart guy I'll give you a hint.
THE CIA TELLS THEM WHERE TO LOOK.
Or do you think that the inpection teams get their info from a smile, good word and firm handshake from the Iraqi government?
The inspectors had to report the inofrmation back to the nations with actual intelligence collections assets so that Saddams WMD program could be tracked. It's not like he has plants with big neon-signs that say "Iraqi WMD Plant" on them.
Ritter is an opportunistic fu**ing asshole. Period.
Quote It will be good for our economies. The increased defence spending alone will give a healthy boost to the stock markets, not to mention the profitable rebuilding contracts that will be handed out after the dust settles. No it won't. It has nothing to do with the defense industry (typical ignorant liberal mantra) it has everything to do with consumer confidence which is already at a low thanks to a recession, corporate creative accounting and the war on terror. All of which is preferrable to a nuclear crater Tel-Aviv.
Quote Quote Does it not occur to you people that madman will build a missile that can hit Europe before it hits the US? But you seem more intent on attacking him than we do.
Well good morning! Glad you could join us! Has to do something with 100 years of lack of European resolve I think...
Quote Quote He has fought two wars against his neighbors (Iran and Kuwait) One of which we supported, so I don't know if you can count that. Actually, when you think of it, it's much better than our records are...
For the record, Saddam has never won a war. Unless you count nerve gassing Kurds.
Quote Weren't they part of the coalition against him? Seems like fairly reasonable behaviour to me. Um, yeah after they invaded Kuwait and the Almighty UN told them to get out. EVERYONE Was a part of the coalition aginst them.
Of course we bomb someone in self defense it's wrong, Saddam launches missiles at a country NOT PARTICIPATING in the war against him and you call it "reasonable".
I suppose you think Hitler blaming the Jews for Germany's woes was reasonable too?
Quote Do you think he distinguishes between the US and Europe? Don't you think all of this UN pressure will force him to USE his weapons before we "take them away"? Yes, of course he distinguishes between Europe and the US. This is because he has shown himself to be a canny political operator capable of exploiting differences in position between the allies. I think it's a defendable position to say that he has, since the start of the invasion of Kuwait, managed to out-manoeuvre the rest of the world, diplomatically at least. He is, after all, still in power. How many leaders who were instrumental in the Gulf war can say that?
No, he does not. Yes he does exploit European indecisiveness, he did not out-maneuver the world. He out-maneuvered the European Commuity. There was 100 miles of nothing between us and Bagdhad but the UN and EC resolutions backing the coalition EXPLICITLY stated the sole mission was to eject Saddam from Kuwait. We would have benn more than willing to drive up there and kill that SOB, but thatnks to you all, he's still there, 11 years later.
Um, he is a HOMICIDAL DICTATOR, most of the coalition forces were from democracies, where leadership changes are built in. World's oldest existing democracy, 226 years and still going strong. Can Iraq make the same claim? Didn't think so. Can the UK? Didn't think so.
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Just remember, unlike your average hold-the-gun-sideways gang-banger, us redneck gun nyts are usually VERY good with them thar shootin' irons....
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Strawberry,
This end you hold...........................................This end toward your target.
(Just some gun-nut geek knowledge, just to help you out!)
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It's a thread about GUNZ, what should we talk about? I mean you pull the trigger, they go boom. There is not much more to it than that...
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for the last fu**ing time, WE GET OUR OIL FROM CANADA.
No one, not even Bush is predicting the war will be good for the economy. But then neither will a nerve gas laden SCUD-B denoting over Riyadh.
Ritter is bitter, angry, and making a buttload of $$$ on the talkshow circuit. Or is that too right field for ya?
Lesse, Korea, hmm yeah another UN half-assed measure.
Does it not occur to you people that madman will build a missile that can hit Europe before it hits the US? He has fought two wars against his neighbors (Iran and Kuwait) and fired missiles at Saudi Arabia and Israel. He is none to fond of Jordan either, which is why his tank divisions occasionally "wander" into Jordanian territory. Do you think he distinguishes between the US and Europe? Don't you think all of this UN pressure will force him to USE his weapons before we "take them away"?
And one more thing. If by some miracle the inspectors get all of his stuff, how do you prevent him from getting more? He's not exactly an old man. He'll be around a while. You all just don't get it do you? He is a bigger danger to you all than he is to us. But yes I agree, we should not fabricate a war. We should use the tried and true European method of mass graves and refugees before we do anything....
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Don't worry, I am sure there is an active thread about something really interesting like HAIR
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So don't do that!
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I only bite upon request. Boneshaker on the other hand, well let's just say it's been two weeks and I still can't sit down!
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Yes I agree. That method worked so well with Hitler, in Bosnia, Kosovo. Yes, we shoudl wait for 1.2 million people to die in the same amount of seconds before we do something.
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I try to balance the ammo vs what the PCs / NPCs are wearing for armor. Of course I keep hitting NPCs in the leg and head where they (poser-gangers) tend not to have any armor.....
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The M249 uses 200 round belts, carried in those convinient little box magazines so the belt does not drag all over creation.
The M240 is a 7.62mm belt fed weapon. If you have it mounted on a vehicle you just feed it right out of the 100 rd. ammo can the ammo comes in. If you have to carry it you can break the belt off whereever you feel like but at 200 RPM that 30 rounds won't last long, so stick with the 100 round belt and wrap the sucker around your forearm while you carry it. When you set the weapon up in a support by fire position, you just feed it out of the ammo can your AG is carrying.
BOTH weapons have much easier to change barrels than the Bren too, which is a huge factor in maintainting weight of fire on the objective.
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You are absolutly right. This is not war, this is democratic law enforcement. We should wait for Saddam to actually commit a crime before we do something. I propose we wait for him to nuke, or slime Tel-Aviv, or Riyadh, or Athens, or Rome before we do anything. Especially considering how good Saddam has been for his people. Using Oil for Food money to buy Heavy Equipment Trucks. And the Kurds love him especially. Absolutley right.
Ritter has been out of the intelligence loop for four years, think he has up to date information? And as for the shelf-life, that has nothing to do with manufacturing time. And he is assuming we got all of Saddams WMD facilities in 1998. Think he's a reliable bitter-angry source? Sure....
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Yeah, Al has the next campaign in the bag. Especially in light of the brilliance with which he ran the last one.
Peace protestors. Never had to deal with THOSE before.
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Quote (wilphe @ Sep. 28 2002,05:18) Quote And the only disads to the "good ol' Bren" are 1) fires from magazines that weigh a ton and are still only 30 shots or so, 2) older than dirt so finding new parts can be...difficult, 3) it's a bloody LOG and it only has 30-shot magazines, 4) it uses a caliber that isn't the standard for ANYBODY anymore, 5) those magazines stick UP so you have a nice boxy silouete that draws your enemy's fire at your HEAD, 6) it's still a lot less useful in general than a current LMG/GPMG, 7+) a grip of other reasons that don't come to mind right now...
Mark(psycho)Phipps( HAHAHA! )
P.S. besides, the British GPMG is one hell of a machinegun!1) While most Brens and their ilk were built to fire 7.92 or .303, later ones were rebarrelled to 7.62 NATO...
2 ) Upward sticky magazine is easy to change when resting on a bipod compared to a underneath mount (with a helper you shouldn't even need to take your eye off of the target).
Incidentally also useful when pushing through undergrowth, that's why the Owen Gun had one.
3) Its 75 years old and people are still using them, not too shabby I feel. There aren't many export users of the L86 that replaced it (shudder).Thougha as an LMG for an army with 5.56 assault rifles there's not a lot of point having it, if your troops are fitted out with 7.62 semi-auto only rifles then its a lot better suited.
4) It's even more iconic than the Lewis.
Actually you are comparing apples and oranges, the FN MAG is more the equivilant of the Bren and many, many countries, including the US and UK use it. And as for a SAW (two per squad in the case of the US) the M249 is hard to beat.
Of course the RPK would be the most prolific SAW, but that is another thread.
(OBTW, gimme belt fed over magazine fed any day. And the M249 can use M16 mags in a pinch)
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If you decide to take boneshaker up on her offer, all I can say is be careful, be VERY CAREFUL!
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Yeah, I gotta agree w/ Phipps (that's twice!) the M240 (aka FN MAG aka L7A1, etc) is an excellent GPMG. I first fired one when I was in Bosnia and went to a live fire range with the Swedish Battalion I was attached to. We fired their FN then our M-60 and the FN was MUCH better. Much more controllable, and ergonomically better balanced. Alittle heavy 'cause theirs had wood stocks, but the new ones are plastic.
Little-paid-attention-to-fact: the M240 has been in service w/ the US Army for 20 years as the loaders MG and Coax on the M1 and M2.
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Quote (psychophipps @ Sep. 25 2002,15:19) It looks kool enough but i'd rather have M249 SAW as a support weapon. It's more accurate at range, has a higher fire rate and those 200-round belts make it much more useful in general as a light support weapon in the sustained fire role.
Mark(psycho)Phipps( HAHAHA! )Not to mention it does not have all that crap hanging off of it. And I believe the barrel on the -249 is a bit heavier than the M4's. More mass less recoil, easier to control, bi-pod is built in, adjustable cyclic rate etc etc.
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All I can guess on that is that they plan on the SAW version being the same weapon with a drum magazine. Kinda like the new H&K G-Whatever...
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Quote (Chrysalis @ Sep. 20 2002,05:15) http://club.guns.ru/ Check out the AN-94, supposedly that is the replacement in the Red Army for the AK-74.
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Quote (Chrysalis @ Sep. 19 2002,09:03) We aren't, men just seem to be unable to grasp when we are upset, angry or on the verge of hysterics. Men are stressful.
-Chrysalis
P.S. We forgot DurexAnd women can't grasp that when you are upset, angry, or on the verge of hysterics WE ARE IGNORING YOU for a reason...
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You-people-are-weird.
-The Eagle Guy from "The Muppets"
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Hey lady, you started this thread by refering to H&K owners (of which I am not) as gun nuts. THerefore us Sig owners had to stand up in their defense.
ALthough strange coiincidence that all the firearms discussed in this thread thus far are of European origin...