Rockwolf66

Correction, most ammo is common. 9mm, 12 gauge, even 7.62 all common.

 

Try to get your hands on a 5.7×28mm that is harder. Most local gun stores don't carry it.

 

This because exactly two guns from single manufacturer use that cartridge. How many stories of gangbangers have you heard where the weapons involved were P90s and Five-seveNs? Now how many gangbangers use Rugers because they are cheap, reliable, cheap, reasonably accurate, and...umm, did I mention cheap?

 

Funny, Ruger doesn't make a gun chambered in 5.7x28mm...

I've heard of a few instances where crooks have used P90 or Fiveseven pistols. In all cases it had to do with Mexico and in every instance the crook either got the weapon from the Mexican cops or the BATFE*

 

*Yes I am talking about Operation Fast and Furrious. May the people behind it spend the rest of their lives as the Queens of Levenworth federal prison. That or a mexican Prison.

 

Straycatalist made a great point on the thread about guncams. Crooks don't use legal firearms, so the question then becomes what do they use.

 

Places like Chechnia and elseware have easily shown how easy it is to make a straight blowback submachinegun. Personally I'm suprised that various "resistance" type submachineguns like the Sten arn't dirt common among booster gangers.

 

What does the rest of the forum think about this?

Master Drow please Google "The Jester Hackivist"

 

While what he did was simple I get the feeling that it's a "dry" run for something else.

 

Years ago Wisdom got hacked by the sorts of people that "The Jester" steps on. To put it bluntly he is a real life edgerunner. A US Government Cyber Security expert who has gone freelance and targets what he belives to be enimies of the country he loves. Yes he has gotten it wrong in the past but he did end up tracking down the leader of a criminal hacker group...Although the FBI did find the guy first and had turned him against his own group. He has also disrupted several latter verified ZTerrorist front groups on the internet.

Apparently an "Ethical" Hacker has turned the tables on the Anon crowd.

 

 

Details

 

 

It gives one some great ideas about CP2020 netrunning and how to get a corps datafiles.

 

Looks like they're remaking "Total Recall". I remember seeing the original with The Governator in the theater back in the day. New version looks a lot more hi-tech, possibly more cyberpunkish. Depends on what they do with the original Philip K. Dick story it could be really good.

 

I just want a version without aliens or mutants or psychics or any other cheesy stupid shit...

The origional Philip K. Dick story had Alien in it. Apparently Quaid stopped an Alien invasion of Mars when he was 9 or so.

 

Gah, I love source material.

 

I actually trained in DanZan Ryu JuJitsu for about 12 years before I went to college and had to stop (no dojo nearby). The thing I liked most about it is how it took a long time to advance in each rank. Often it took people 15 or more years to become a black belt.

 

Where did you go to Train. There used to be a Jujitsu Dojo in Eureka over a butcher's shop. I went there for a while but I had to drop out due to getting sick and lacking the money to continue.

 

Lucky guy Mark.

 

I wish I could go to front sight. Right now I'm stuck building a pistol range in the back yard.

 

PS: Not a bad AR-15. Unfortunatly I can't barrel and put in the gas tubes of the uppers yet.

I've seen something like that, wasn't nearly as cool as it sounded

 

Was it a dead cow filled with dynamite?

 

While i am usually against burning books I say that we have a V3 burning and then have the MIB use that little flashy thing on us all.

 

 

 

Guys, you're kickin' a dead horse.

 

What for :?:

 

I don't have any explosives handy.

 

Come on it would be really cool to see a dead horse filled with tannerite.

 

Then when it would have taken off on its own, they could have brought in the AltCults as complete sourcebooks as expansions to the system(in a way similar to the Hardwired and When Gravity Fails sourcebooks in CP2020), instead of two-page blurbs in the main book, it still would have been our choice on how we're supposed to play it. If we'd just want to play the basic game without any of the altcults, we could do so, or we could just bring some of them in.

 

the thing is, alt cults were central to what mike was trying to do (i think). it was mikes attempt to "fix" one of the inherent "flaws" of cyberpunk, wherein everyone is paranoid and amoral meaning they have no reason to trust each other or work with each other (and means games are likely to end in a huge backstab fest). it was a ham fisted way to go about it, but you can at least see what he was trying to accomplish and why he thought it needed to be mandatory.

Why did that need to be fixed. Edgerunners are criminals and if you associate with carrer criminals for any lenght of time you realise that outside of some rare tightnit crews everyone is paranoid and amoral to a large degree. Altcults really should not exist to the degree that they do in V3, I mean they are portrayed as these monolithic groups where everyone gets along with Unicorns and Rainbows. Gah, it's just not cyberpunk it's transhumanist drek.

The entire series, meaning CP2013, CP2020 and Cyberpunk v3?

 

Wow, that's devotion and expertise...

Nope just v3 and it's for sale. I guesss someone bought it and then realized what total drek it was. I though the main book was bad but the supliments are worse.

Snowtiger there was so much wrong with Avatar that I personally avoid it like the plague it is. basically Cameron tried shoving his politics down everyones throats with such gems an Unobtainium and having most of the Human's automatically piratical dicks.

 

Plus most of the things flying in that film shouldn't.....

would it suprise anyone that my local gamestore has the etire series in mint condition for sale in their used games shelf?

What i don't like about Red Dawn was the way that an RPG could hit a Hind and the Hind wasn't ripped in half. They have youtube video of what happens when a Hind is hit midship by a rocket or a missile and it's just ugly as it gets.

 

I am actually more inclined to believe this than I might have before seeing the results of some of these engagements. Not because the Hind is a flying armored tank (that is more hype than reality), but because big helos actually have a lot of empty space inside. Most RPGs carry HEAT warheads that will fire that copper jet right through plate armor, but the effects can be fairly localized. There is no denying that RPGs are scary, cheap, ubiquitous, and effective, but hitting a helicopter with one takes some serious skill and luck in combination. In the unlikely event that one connects, the outcome is not necessarily a foregone conclusion

 

about the 3:00 minute mark. Hollywood Hind takes a RPG-7 from the ground right below the engines on an upward tragectory. Reality is that if it were a real Hind vs. an RPG-7 then insted of simply flying off like nothing happened it would be struggling to stay airborne.

 

I'm not saying that a helicopter can't survive some incredible damage but the truth likes someplace between that a helicopter is just a flying deathtrap to helicopter Gunships are flying tanks.

 

What i don't like about Red Dawn was the way that an RPG could hit a Hind and the Hind wasn't ripped in half. They have youtube video of what happens when a Hind is hit midship by a rocket or a missile and it's just ugly as it gets.

 

The problem that most Missile systems have is that unless you have lots or terrain without cover most helicopters are litterally flying around the trees so that you can't get a proper lock onto the aircraft. Thus you are stuck with Anti-aircraft guns on manual sighting or unguided rockets. Markc's missle is scary in theory but when one takes into account pysics of motion and the limited amount of fuel a missle can carry. It doesn't work so well unless you have those magical heavygear missiles that can turn 180 on a dime while at full speed.

Interesting point you bring up there, Rockwolf. The strange thing about the combat helicopters plying their trade these days is that they are not opposed weapon systems--they really don't counter each other. What I mean by this is that having helicopters on your side does not necessarily eliminate the advantage that your enemy gains by having helicopter support as well. Having vertical lift means that a force can rapidly counter an enemy ground-based assault, as well as conduct some vertical envelopment ops that force the other side to defend the depth as well as the breadth of their turf. On the other hand, just because you might have some helos doesn't mean that you have in any way limited your enemy's vertical lift capabilities.

 

It's a weird paper-scissors-rock relationship. So far, in spite of some attempts by both the U.S. Army mounting Stingers on scout helicopters and some dedicated Soviet designs, there really have not been any viable counter-helo helicopter designs let loose in any conflict. Instead, the suggested antidote for helicopters has been shoulder-fired SAMS, anti-aircraft artillery, and even massed small arms fire.

 

Funny ancidote i read while researching helicopter armaments there is an unconfirmed report that a GAU-19/A packing Littlebird got an air to Air gunkill. Personally I could see small, fast heavily armed helicopters being used in a hunter killer role against other helicopter assets. Then maybe I'm just stealing the idea from Firebirds.

 

Don't get me wrong--some of those whiz-bang gizmos keep the low-techs from using some high-tech shoulder tubes to make our days miserable, and they are well worth the trade-offs in performance. If I were a corporate bean-counter, however, I might be much more inclined to scrimp on the heavy (and expensive) survivability gear and keep the performance surplus to allow my expendable mercenary aircrews to bring greater scunnion on the proxy force between me and my plunder. It's all risk vs. pay-off, right?

 

Well in the book I mentioned it does tell about just that senario. You have a South African Pilot flying a Hind-D holding off an army that was best described as the Kilmer rouge without the idealogy to justify their actions. Still Even without the lattest equipment the pair of Hind-D survived against several thousand peoople trying to kill it. Had there been proper western levels of support for Sierra leone's helicopter gunship force it could have really changed things as That Pilot ruled the skys of that country.

Hey All,

I've been reading War Dog again and it's gotten me wondering about how effective helicopters would be in 2020. Even with the suposed poliferation of handheld weapons up to heat seeking missile catigories. The helicopter seems really effective against infantry types and light vehicles. Plus lets face it AV's sound really cool and all but They stay airborne due to brute force.

 

It's interesting to hear how ineffective a SAM is against a helicopter flying low over the jungle. Basically by the time the missile has a chance to lock on the the helicopter it's already gone. As far as RPG-7 launchers go you have to fire hundreds in massive vollies to hit a moving helicopter that is most likely shooting back.

 

Heck, the MI-24D Hind that Nellis was useing in Sierra leone was so old and patched that it leaked water when it rained. Still between the two funtional Hind helicopters Nelis and his side gunners held off an entire infantry army.

 

Now in the World of CP2020 I see Helicopters as Cheap reliable means of transport and in the case of Smaller police departments serious firepower when needed. I know in the Cardgame a "Ghetto Bird" is a police helicopter. The Image they use is of a AH-1 series Cobra Attack helicopter.

 

What are the thoughts on this by everyone Else? I know we have a combat pilot so i really want to hear his professional opinion.

Maria and Erica doing mission prep before a job. by this time in her Life Erica has done a tour with the US Army and ended up doing a peacekeeping mission where the local thugs loved to shoot up her maintenance and supply company. Erica sees edgerunning as something that needs to be done right and only runs when the cause is right.

 

 

Ok the story behind the image. Seven years previously Maria saved the life of a girl named Erica Anderson. Now poor little Erica has grown up into a fine young woman and as a way of saying thank you for being there for those 4 am calls on nights when the nightmares came and to piss off some people who deserve it Erica asked Maria to her senior prom as her date. In the image Erica is trying to get Maria to dance.

 

 

PS: I'm chatting with my artist about two more images.

I know it's not pure cyberpunk but here's the Clean Birthday Image.

 

I hope you all enjoy.

Now to make her formal introduction....

 

 

Erica Anderson:

 

 

 

 

Yes it's our poor little orphaned Erica all grown up and looking very nice. her hobbies are being bent over a car engine and Body art.

Our Favorite Irish/Russian freelance enforcer...Trouble.

 

 

I really like the digital artwork you got going Rockwolf, it actually looks pretty decent, the one with the character in the suit on the street looks fantastically Cyberpunk. What program are you using for that?

 

Citizen I have no clue. These are pictures that i have done favores for a friend to get. All i have provided are the character descriptions.

 

Here we have Maria's Amor, Johnny "Priest" Bishop.

 

Here he is at play.

 

 

And here he is in working clothes sometime around his stint working directly for Uncle Sam.