MonSTeR

I think the extra detail is a mistake. If you don't give them extra detail, they'll be watching EVERYTHING and asking for extra detail about anything that seems slightly out of the ordinary.

 

Heavy police presence on the streets is always good, as is AV/helicopter/Gyro surveilance. "Why is that Gyro just hovering there?"  

 

Having the streets empty is another one. "Why is everyone off the street tonight?"

 

Having big grey vans parked in some of thier favourite spots is a good one too. It's actually a black ops team breaking into the offices across the street from the PC#s fave bar... but THEY don't know that.

 

OR Actually have one of the characters, usually the toughest fighter targetted by an upcoming solo out to make a name for himself. Actually go after the PCs, but spend a session or two having the new NPC solo gathering intel on the PC target.

 

Try those, or wait for Psychophipps

Quote from Bookwyrm, posted on Sep. 05 2001,03:11

Besides, if he took damage to whatever bit of the brain controls the autonomic nervous system then he's pretty much bent over and taking it firmly from the rear.

 

Unless of course his healing factor had enough time to regenerate the autonomic nervous system control centres whilst you're dropping your pants, don't forget the cells will continue to function for a while without the autonomic nervous system beating the heart and controlling his breathing. Then he's back in business, and you've got your corporate assets ready for an adamantium laced hostile takeover

 

And besides Marvel characters have a great established history of coming back from the dead. Wolvie flatlined in issue 75 and he managed to get up and walk around a couple of panel later;)

Quote from Myrad, posted on Aug. 28 2001,05:02

(thoes of you who read 2000AD might remember this one)<p>if you need to get rid of that nasty blood stain,

then look no further, the use of any strong bio-logical cleaning product, (available from all good supermarkets) will shift it, with there handy protein eating enzymes you simply spray wait a minute then give a rince, no blood, no fuss. [biggrin]

Sure any forensics team will spot the fact that the enzymes have been used, but without evidence they can't arrest you. [biggrin]

 

It's not the protein that's the issue. It's the DNA. Sodium hyrdoxide is used to clean Lab benches down before starting DNA forensics work so this is what I'd use to try to get rid of a sample.

Quote from Bookwyrm, posted on Sep. 04 2001,13:29

Not that hard really, get a sniper to put a bullet through his eye socket - can he do the impossible and regenerate brain tissue?

 

So you take out his eye and the bullet stops harmlessly against the back of his eye socket

 

The eye'll grow back by next month's issue (due to the totipotentiality of his cells which may mean that "yes" he can regenerate brain tissue) and he'll be after the sniper for payback.

 

See you in 30 !!!

 

Wolvie has survived exploding buildings, 100 foot drops, having half the blood drained from his body and ambushes in apartments filled with 70 guntoting assassins. Not to mention having adamantium fused to his bones the adamantium ripped from his skeleton on a molecular level. Someone trying to put it back and failing with "explosive" results and finally someone succeeding in rebonding his skeleton with that mythic metal. He's a comic bok character and the physics and biology of our world don't apply to him!!!

Quote from psychophipps, posted on Sep. 04 2001,00:33

*sighs*  everyone misses my point.  if you moved his joints out of whack(you really could only reinforce the hinge ones as he still needs full movement in his socket joints), he's pretty well screwed just like anyone else.  

ok...you have a feral, fuzzy, indestructable-boned superfreak helplessly lying at you feet with all his limbs dislocated at the shoulder or hip.  now his healing factor doesn't cover pulling his limbs back into their sockets, so you just calmly pull the pin on your thermite bomb(1500 degrees centegrade-plus is your friend), let the spoon go, and give the little bastard a wink as you drop it on his chest...

 

Hard to heal when all the flesh as been burned from that fancy-dan skeleton, huh?

Mark(psycho)Phipps(HAHAHA!)

 

Oh course beating Wolvie in a fight is hard enough anyway without some SERIOUS super powers of your own. So getting to place a precise kick to dislocate one of his joints is a typically fatal course of action. But Wolverine's real power is not his healing factor, his razor sharp claws or his heightened senses. It's his skill, experience, bravery and tenacity.

 

Or maybe it's his marvel posterboy status that means whilst he brings in the big bucks he's virtually immortal

Quote from MonSTeR, posted on Aug. 28 2001,16:55

Go here  for a long list of Ebay auctions for the some CP2020 books in the UK. A good chance to bolster/complete your collections..<p>Including "Listen Up" and "serve and protect" <p>Click the "here" in Go here at the top.<p>(Edited by MonSTeR at 1:57 pm on Aug. 28, 2001)

 

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Quote: from Snowtiger on 7:12 am on Aug. 31, 2001

Monster, so in game terms, the operation needed for installing adamantium into the <br>skeletal system is a lot like injecting youself with nanotech, only it has to be done simultaneously to every part of your body.<p>I'll let you think up the actual installation procedure.

How do you think the operation will change the stats and skills of the purchaser. <p>I think, it'll work like a linear frame, but actually doesn't boost your strength, only allows you to lift things like cars without injuring yourself(assuming you've got the strength to lift cars). It would also serve as great suport for cyberlimbs, as the adamantium bones don't break as easily when lifting heavy things like cars.<p>That's gonna be a helluva thing to do...<p><p>

<p>Well, I simply use the stats for the "Orbital Alloy Cyber-skeletal enhancement" on page 28 of chromebook 3. I just change the "fluff" or story behind the cyberware to match the Marvel comics idea. <p>Don't forget though that the adamantium bonding procedure in the Marvel comics is incredibly dangerous!!! And it's only mutants with a healing factor like Wolverine and Sabertooth that seem to be able to survive the process. <p>The other thing in the Marvel comics is that the whole skeleton is bonded with adamantium at the same time, so the upper and lower portions of the Dynalar model in Chromebook3 no longer applies!!!<p>This makes getting an "adamantium skeleton" (in my world) a DOUBLE SUPER CRITICAL PROCEDURE!!!!!<p>So that's 6d6-BTM twice in one go for the surgical damage!!!<p><p>Because adamantium is toxic to humans I also came up with another level of the same cyberware.<p>+3 to melee and H-t-H damage and it takes 16 points of damage to become severed/useless.<p>To offset the huge advantage this gives, I decided that the toxic "adamantium", or Chi-Class Orbital Alloy as I called it, (Chi is greek for "X") would cause 1 point of damage to the recipient every 24 hours!!!. This meant to function normally some form of healing drug or nanotech had to be used to counteract the effects of the skeletal bonding.<p>I never gave it a price it's WAY too experimental for that.

 

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Quote: from Bookwyrm on 4:54 pm on Aug. 30, 2001

I thought Draconis just did?  Or was that Quayle (who thought potato is spelt with an 'e')?

I think you might be right, American politicians.. they all look the same to me;)

BUT at least with Bush in power the world seems safe from a nuclear threat... No not son of Star Wars.. It's just that those launch codes are awfully long

is it time for us to play the "George W. Bush" card yet ?!?!

Well I was a little worried about Bookwyrm nominating "Blade Runner" !!! As long as you take it seperately from the "Do Androids dream of electric sheep" story I think it's an excellent film, I also like the 2 very different versions one with and one without hte narrative and the different endings.

And Split Second =)  I can'trecall exactly what the beastie after Harley Stone was... (Anyone care to explain?)But I the London setting was suberb.

My wierd and wonderful reading habits include...

White Dwarf

Flex

Guitarist

New Scientist

Nature

Thanks for sharing.

And the auctions have all been cancelled as the seller has been suspended from ebay. LOL just my luck ;(

exactly - it all depends on circumstance... I'm just pointing out about you can never control the situation so much as to run up to someone on a street and whip out a rifle and point it in their face.

And then there's that pesky D10 to roll... better watch those 1's and pray for those 10s

We've so far between us come up with I think a difference equal to psychophipps's original 14 to roll though

(Edited by MonSTeR at 4:05 pm on Aug. 28, 2001)

Go here  for a long list of Ebay auctions for the some CP2020 books in the UK. A good chance to bolster/complete your collections..

Including "Listen Up" and "serve and protect"

Click the "here" in Go here at the top.

(Edited by MonSTeR at 1:57 pm on Aug. 28, 2001)

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Quote: from psychophipps on 1:49 am on Aug. 24, 2001

 now comes the big question for me: WHY THE #### DIDN'T THEY JUST SHOOT HIM IN THE HEAD?!?  you take a Ronin AR, have the original bum get in the forementioned frackhead's face, and BANG! problem solved without becoming rouge terrorist types wanted by the whole of the free world...

armored nugget?  AP ammo.  if he's still standing, JUST SHOOT HIM AGAIN!  *speaking to the forementioned players*  you're in an URBAN setting, you wankers!   your average engagement range is 7 meters or less!  *retards voice*wow, that means that i only need to roll a 14 to shoot someone in the FRACKING FACE at that range with most firearms...

 

Mark(psycho)Phipps(HAHAHA!)

Well - depending on the mood I was in...

The shooter is at point blank range. Base roll of 10 yep?

And a -4 for small target/called head shot. (roll14

Now's here where I get Evil GMish.

You're in an Urban setting.

It's probably gonna be dark outside the club, maybe even with loud noise and flashing signs and lights, so I'll use the "insufficient light/blinded by light" penalty of -3 (roll17)

And you're trotting up to "point blank range" on a big scary semi "full-borg" who is a known enemy, so I'll reckon "under stress" another difficulty penalty of 3   (roll20)

So that's a roll of 20 just to make sure you get to hit the guy assuming he hasn't seen his would be assassin.

If he DOES see the attacker he's gonna be going for his gun. If you want to make sure you're gonna get the drop on him you'll want to get off a "snapshot" for the initiative bonus. Another -3.

So your 14 just turned into 23. and if you miss, you better pray someone's got your back covered.

 

I'm only toying with ideas here, but it just shows how the best laid plans of mice and men get STOMPED on by the MonSTeR (and his big book of modifiers

 

It's not the quick death you have to worry about. It's the slow agonizing torturous death that worries me!

A good martial artist can kill you fast with anything. A streetpunk can kill you slow from internal bleeding and medical "complications" that arise from a lucky blow a few hours earlier.

If this "asp" is one of those extending baton type objects then I think the +1 Initiative (if you're going to apply it at all) could come more from the surprise than the actual weight of the weapon. you can see a monokatana or a chainsaw. They're pretty obvious, but a small handle sized object isn't something that you'd necessarily notice. Unless you're around melee weapons alot. In which case you're probably a "solo" and as such have combat sense to get the drop on the start of the combat round.

The adamantium isn't solid when it is bonded to the bones.

There have now been several examples in Marvel comics where a skeleton is reinforced with adamantium and the actual bonding process is shown. Most of the time it appears that the adamatium is in some form of liquid and flows onto the bones. In Wolverine issue 100 it was done on using a controlled flow of adamantium molecules through a "saline/electrolyte solution" drawn as a green liquid flow and when Sabertooth got his new skelton in issue 161 there was the green liquid again. So I think it's safe to say that these days the adamantium goes onto the bone as a green goop, and turns into an indestructible solid metal there

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Quote: from Snowtiger on 4:54 am on Aug. 28, 2001

Hmm, I wonder what happened to Professor X and the X-men, if the great Canuck himself lives in Night City.

Well I ran one short 2 adventure campaign where Logan-Creed-North was a small consultancy for black ops teams. They offered advice, training and for a VERY high price they would sometimes undertake black ops... seemingly for old times sakes. They also had some fantastic stories about the 1960's and some of the earliest cyberpsychos. THere was this one time in East Berlin

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Quote: from Snowtiger on 4:54 am on Aug. 28, 2001

 

- Type I Wolvers:

These are a lot like the claws of the Great Canuck himself, three slightly curved monochrystalline blades extending between the knuckles of the owner.

Damage is 3d6.

I always imagined Wolvie's adamantium claws to have some monomolecular properties based on the way he could slice through anything. I use the following stats for them

Soft Armour 1/3xSP, Hard Armour 2/3SP Penetrating damage is not reduced) but thanks to their adamantium construction, without the risk of breakage (the don’t break or shatter on fumbles or when used to parry)

I then adapted this as a piece of cyber ware in my world... I called them "Orbital Alloy Mono-Wolvers". Manufactured by my world's big bad corp... Stuttgart Industries...

 

The Stuttgart Industries Orbital Alloy Mono-Wolvers are a simple upgrade on the basic “Wolvers”. They utilize blades constructed under zero-g conditions from the strongest orbital alloys that possess a monomolecular cutting edge.

These blades retain the razor sharpness of conventional monomolecular blades and combine it with the unparalleled strength of Stuttgart Industries’ Orbital Alloys.  

 

Yep - I'll agree to that Bookwyrm. Either the World Bank, or the corporations that have loaned a few hundred billion here and there

if you want to ignore armour, then ignore it. p46 of chromebook 1 the Militech grenade launcher firing HEP rounds and p54 the stein and wasserman Model F, again firing HEP rounds. The rules state armour has no effect. Damage is half real, half stun.

Bigger isn't better.

IF you're allowing folks to take fuel-air explosives in a game, unless you're actually in the corporate war, you stopped playing cyberpunk.

Whilst DNA is surrounded by Histone proteins the actual Deoxyribonucleic acid is made of a sugar-phosphate backbone and the coding is accomplished by nitrogenous bases of purine and pyrimidine origin.

Disrupting the double helix is easily achieved, by acid alkali or moderate (anything getting much above 75 degrees c. This is to melt the hydrogen bonds that hold the 2 strands of the double helix together. However at low levels of acidity or temperature increase the DNA strands themselves can survive. In fact regular heating and cooling is a part of DNA cloning procedures.

To make the DNA unrecognisible the idea is to break the Oxygen-Phosphor bonds that hold the DNA strand in sequence.

Strong acids and alkali would work. Perhaps enzymes that degrade the DNA would be a more effective way in 2020 of dealing with DNA samples.

Yes wolvers are great fun aren't they

I love the fact that in the revised 2020 edition, on page 24 the start of view from the edge... There's Wolvie himself, lighting up a smoke. I think it's great to know that the greatest Solo of all time is still alive and snikting in 2020 =)

It's only the "men of fighting age" that are legally required to practice for 2(?) hours every sunday under the supervision of the local clergy. The women folk are allowed to watch the eastenders omnibus

This H&K seems to be a new SMG so they can't be going out of style completely.

 

However

here's proof that the carbine is looking a VERY likely candidate for a serious weapon in the hands of a solo. It's a G36 compact a "short carbine" with a 9" barrel firing 5.56mm ammo.

I "borrowed" this images from the HK website