Joe Q. Public

I believe that hte question was on sniper rifles and multi shot systems.

Having had the rare privlage to shoot the USMC beautiful Barrett 82 .50 cal rifle I can atest to the reasons for dingle shot vs. mulit-fire during a sniping mission.

1. the classic of 1 shot 1 kill, some stereotypes just can't be broken.

2. as stated above, multi shot gives a higher chance for location and even visible mussleblast.

3. When encountering a target of priority one may not get the cleanest, most unobstructed shot. When shot visibility is compromised one really thanks the powers that be that your ammo can make it through light armor plate at 500m.

4. Who wants the bullet of a smaller caliber leaving thier mark alive. Personally i've seen glancing head wounds w/ 9mm enough live w/ little affect too many times to ask for a lighter rifle round...

5. To shoot a high cal. round burst hurts like the devil himself against your arm. The pneumatic recoil system in the Barrett still left me w/ a full respect of the 50 caliber round for many many years...

About 2 years ago I sold 300 spacemarines w/ bolter and var. heavy weapons for $1000 and the guy justabout jizzed whenI handed him 3 bags of merchandise...

GURPS is bulky and if I have to show you the loophole in the system, oh boy I hope one of my former players never get into one of your campaigns....

If ya just need a bunch of civies, the C O C figs are dirt cheap when you can find them (being molded pre lead ban, which is technically over if ya look up the court case)

So, just to update an old fart, how much y'all paying for figs these days?

RTG has been on part time status for a few years now, and considering that people who do RPGs for fun are opposed to the Fuzion cross-over by and large, I think it may spell the demise of the system if the good people of RTG don't open thier eyes and listen to thier consumers.

"Seeya at za room Ivan Baby!" winks and then walks over to Porter and gets into the cab.

"Now that we are alone, what you guy'es story? A girls got toknow who she is getting in with. And who's this Chucky fellow?"

Having Players start w/ a high score in certain spots is the #1 complaint that I hear when I run into a group of CP2020 players that seems dissatisfied w/ the game system.

This, and I'm not going to sugar coat it, is 100% the GM's fault.

If you've been gaming a group in ANY genre and have people start off at very high levels in thier profession before the first game, mission, etc. there can be only one of two reasons for this (and let's be honest here)

1. You've been gaming w/ this group, or have known the experience of this group to be high enough to know all that it takes to keep a high level character going (upkeep at high levels in just about ANY game system I've played- and that's saying quite a bit-  is a bitch, just think of all the contacts a level 8 Streetdeal needs to touch base on in a week?

2. You are relatively new to GMing a group, and experience is about to teach you, Players like to earn thier wonderful abilities. Now I know a wall of complaint will fly up here calling me a 'hardass' GM, but really, if you have no skill start at over- say a 5 which is still pretty good, you have a lot more room to develope those skills that give your charcter the little things that help define thier role.  And let's be honest here, unless you start w/ an ungodly amount of start up points, you will have a hard time w/ your charcter doing simple things under fire (driving, swimming, shoppong for that Cryo-chill outfit, etc) and it will leave you puttiing all the float IP into these miscellaneous skills instead of doing what a pro wold be, and that would be making themselves better at what they do for a living.

Agree, disagree, let's just say the opinon is based in helping a lot of GMs that came to me as players get ahold of thier campaigns (d&d, CoC, Shadowrun, Battletech, CP2020, GURPS, Palladium, Battlelords of the 23C, WH40k and fantasy,and even my favorites Paranoia (which control by the Computer should NEVER be lost,) and It Came from the Late Late Late Show).

Oh thannnkkkk YOUUU for hte pic and direct link to the site!

Have to agree w/ Phipps on this one. If ya ever get a chance to see the RTG BubbleGum Crisis stuff you'll see that Fuzion isn't all it's cracked up to be...

On the price of miniatures (GW for example) I used to get figs for a 1.25 a piece (about 4.50-5.50 for a blister of 3) and get this, the Rhino troop carriers, well son, they used to come in a three pack for $20. That's how WH40K became a viable game. But that is history now...

I've found that products from Ral Parha (the ONLY true 25mm caster that has stayed consistant) seems to have the best prices in the biz.  Mind you, I haven't had to pay reatil price for many a moon, but I would think that this would still be the case.  Other than that I have found that if ya find a second rate hobbie store that used to carry RPG and figs, and have gone into mainly trains and that sort of rot you can pick up existing stores for cheap. So I guess the hunt is on unless you are unscupulous and mold you own (smirk!)

The nomad thing has worked in campaigns I've run as a member being not too closey integrated in the clan's family matters (this is a hard thing to do w/ that Family 7+ stat that most players want). I've used Pirates, highwaymen, and various 'nomadic' type tribes to decent effect.

If ya don't buy the one Nomad will give another nomad a break once they know who they are, just consider this-

Being Romani in America (were the gypsy population has strongly turned to sales and trade to keep up hte Romane`s, let's just say that if i pay full price ever, something makes me feel sick inside and I curse the sale because of laziness.

I used to trade (in Chicago -large community there) for everything from my haircuts, to my food and even got a deal on the rent of my flat because of what that meant.

Family stat works, just suttle like...

Oh YEAH BABY!!!!

Giving it up for minitures, never before I started making it manditory usage did anyone just bite the bullet and take the damage for being inthe wrong place at the wrong time.

I favor old Rafm, Grenadier c o c guys and, belive it or not the Battlelords of the 23 century ( a game that I think has the Ubersystem from hit location, but that's another story) has some of the damned finest figs you could ever want.

Now the price thing, well anyone w/ a shop willing to explain how figs went from $1-$1.25 a piece to the price we're paying today, and I already know the reason for Citadel, they're bastards (that's why I mold my own)

Don't know if I feel comfortable w/ someone else diiving up my points. I have a definate style to my [play and the formsation of my charcters will usually need the point divide to be set up the way I need. Nothing against you TZ, just takes a bit of formation out of my hands and hey, it's my chacter right?

Don't know if I feel comfortable w/ someone else diiving up my points. I have a definate style to my [play and the formsation of my charcters will usually need the point divide to be set up the way I need. Nothing against you TZ, just takes a bit of formation out of my hands and hey, it's my chacter right?

Sure TZ

Love to play a fixer, medtech, solo, or a prowler would be cool to....

Sure TZ

Love to play a fixer, medtech, solo, or a prowler would be cool to....

Excuse me (wipes up the drool..) oh yeah baby, can't wait to pu this on a cyberpsycho...

Suit cases, money, ametuer pharmecutials, You fill in the blanks...

Nothing personal taken I just saw that there was an example given of only planning and running characters  only like stat sheets given and put out a reason why somethings my be missing.

Not here to down anything (xcpt maybe Creationism, but that was another battle) just out to SPREAD THE ALOHA!

Thanks all, I hate being the last guy to pee in the pool!

"Hi, I'm Hungry Jack, your mac-daddie in training. Welcome to the intercourse bar."

"the intercourse bar, the first establishment that couples the ethic of fast food eateries w/ the endless supply of lusty young tarts in the job pool."

This fine establishment is a new occurance in the city, run by Happy Jack, a long standing pimp (the one in the polyester leisure suit w/ the leopard print fringe) who believes that not desire is too odd and no customer should be unsatsified.

He peddles in flesh of various sexes and genetic origin. Supplying not only whole subjects to pleasure his clients, but also gives the option for the busy runner to select from the a-la-part menu, (after all you need a break, from the rest of her...)

Fronted by the Church of SIN (see Dark Metropolis source book-ianus games) Happy Jack has provided SIN to the few edgerunners and such who find this little cesspool sanctuary in the bowels of the Hell we call the combat zone.

Security is veiled and lethal (for a fiver, I'll blow your head clean off) but never seems to get in the way of full scale debauchery of the clientel (for two more, they'll swallow the bullet). The building looks like a blasted brick structure from the outside but once one passes through the DUMPSTER and through the basement back room (through the Green Door) and tunnel there in one will arrive in a 60 room (old multifamily dwelling?) building w/ a 30'x50' reception hall of green neon and animal patterned rug and faux-velvet wallpaper to meet up w/ a mack-daddy on call to meet the character's needs. Be it flesh or intoxicating substance, it all can be had at  the intercourse bar for a price.

The private room are standard fare, 10x14 and outfitted w/ beds and various apparati for varying taste but al lit in green neon or red lights (excluding the occasional spot light) and mirrors. The average worker has a Vamp of 3-7 and is willin to please (chance of contracting disease is 3-15% depending on pleasure sought) and all billing is done by the hour and paid for by inserting either cred chop or smudgies into a reader in the wall, at which time the transaction will be recorded as Hungry Jacks Burger Bin, Las Alamos, USA.

Cameras are affixed to te corners of this grand hall and it seems that although one can see that some effort has been given to remove them as such, nothing but a bit of red-brownish stain on the wallpaper is left as evidence of the outcome.

Laws do not reach this Asylum for the wandering mind and if a assault were to be attempted the copious tunnels leading to the underground systems of the city would allow a 90% exscape success for all who work here.

The Intercourse Bar has a neon green float every year during ExihibitSIN and this would be the way most charcters would come to know of it's existance.

(use and abuse to the GM's will, everything else here has been)

Nibbles

If ya play w/ me I got all that out of print crap, just let me know what you want for info.

Have fax, will travel

Oh how I love cyberpsychosis, it gives me the NASTIEST NPCs!!!

Yes!

Mr. Joe Q. Public, cybervulture and dealer in finer cyberware and arms married his ripperdoc contact and 'retired'( ya know after playing a character for about 6 years and my GM moving away I guess thisis what you call it) and opened up shopin a nice concrete renforced shop to sell goods in the combat zone 'legit'.

Oh, isn't love grand (screeching tires and auto impact) excuse me...

"oh man you look bad.... I guess you won't be needing that cyberarm anymore.... "(sound of screams and a chain knife working)

HA HA HA HA

I gotta have too much time on my hands considering that I just figured out that 8 outta 48 post on this column are ended by me.

What, no one disagrees w/ me?

or is it a conspiracy........