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And if you look at CP's rules, you can find HEP rounds only as grenades - the smallest is a 25mm grenade. You can pack a relatively decent charge in this.

Note : considering the way I envison metalgear (a padded boysuit with a kevlar outer layer, then the composite plates trapped on), an HEP round won't be ultimate against it : the shrapnel from the armor gets stopped in the kevlar layer, then the shockwave is moderated by the padding. This means serious damage reduction.

Of course a metalgear is a 20kg log that screams loud and clear 'looking for trouble' . It belongs only to combat situations.

Of course if you manage to hit a joint, things will get messy.

I would consider rather like the Steyr AUG - you choose the configuration most adapted to the mission profile, and it stays the same during the mission

I find acid rounds totally inept - with 2020's acid rain and such, anything intended to be kept for some while as at least somewhat acid-proofed.

An since these are souped-up pantball round, how comes that an acid able to eat through plastics and ceramics (what armors are made of) don't eat through the round itself ?

Oh and to eat through meat in suffcient way to inflict serious damage, you need large amounts of concentrated acids - no 'alien's blood effect' here, especially with the few cc's held in evn a shotgun slug.

An humble AP 5.56 round will puch through almost any armor, and if you put enough of them in the gonk, he's gonna drop. Gases, tanglers, spikes on the ground, thermally active paint sprayed on the optics.. confuse and delay the target, then hose it down. And you can pull off that old .50 barret with AP ammo for the real nutcases. This makes far more sense than pulling out such sillyness as the acid round.

I'd say that the highers up have more to loose and their loyalty is not an hearth-felt one, but rather a consequence of self-interest and greed.

A loyal company man would not backstab his colleagues and superiors to climb faster on the corporate ladder, as infighting is bad for your corporation's efficiency - you don't promote the most efficnet in mangering but the most efficients in intringue and backstabbing (rooting out loosers, profiteers and outhers deadweighst is something else, and can be done out of genuine loyalty)

If the highers up spend on third og their time scheming, one third covering their butts and the last third on thier pet black project for express personnal profit, they don't have that much time to devote to proper management (hence the widespread 'coercitive management' and market-biasing of CP's corporations)

from his memories off delving into satanism and witchcraft, I'd say that the guy was quite screwy to begin with, and fell into another brand of delusion (hardcore christianism) rather than improving in any way.

I think I can keep up with KAriba, since the junglepunk game died - juste replace japanese with portuguese - I might tinker a bit w<ith the equipment too, but nothing drastic (probably a bit more guns and armor stored somplace)

does that seems right for you ?

Another thought : the heavily secured area is also a check by the curch against the power of the corporations, who might be tempted to get thei hands on a gang-free cheap area for that new multi millions Eb 'urban development project'.

Pulling off entrenched hardcore christians with a siege mentality would be to expensive and reputation damaging to be worth the effort.

And the power that be is probably prefering good obedient semi-brainwashed citizens rather than a bunch of violent sociopaths.

And probably even the occasoinal shoot of combat drugs when about to score a 'big one'. The lonies are anti-cyberware, not anti technology at a whole. Stuff like combat gloves and other external augmentations are fine in their book (and can help even the odds with the Metal freaks)

I've devised a interface plugs/chip rack/pain editor (choe wich, or pile them up and risk frying your brain) declination using 'trodes technology (about half has effective ans internal ones) that is likely to be used by the Inquisitors.

Nicely mercantile and dishumanized - very cyberpunk indeed. The targeted ausience is likely to be the young mddle clas exec - they have the worload to require nursing, but not the money to afford the real thing. Nor to afford a good lawyer, and that's a good thing since these guys prepare themselves for serious lasuit troubles in the years to come.

But if they did things properly, the whole company will go bankrupt and cease to exist while the mamangers enjoy their riches someplace nice.

'programming' the kids as perfect moles is a bit long term and can backfire in a specatcular fashion as soon as it gets noticed, but can be done (who cares about a 6 yo poking his nose around...)

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Gladiatorial games were odd,  the Roman games always had a 'mismatch'  The lightly armored 'netter' versus the heavily armored 'chaser'  I can't remember the latin names.  The one with no helmet,  a net,  that odd shoulder piece,  a trident and dagger Vs. a guy in a massive helmet with two tiny eye holes,  a substantial shield,  and sword.  Apparently this was an even match in actual practice.   Duelist always use the same weapons in their affairs.  Just my ramblings after a long day

'netter' : retiarus - I don't know how it translated into english

'chaser' : secutor

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You know, all these swords lacking a decent... what's the word... Parierstange, in german... they all want me to apply the simple, but effective "aim for the wielding hand" tactic . The hand that wields the weapon is normally the nearest thing for you to reach... and trust me, only experienced sword (or staff, for that matter) fighters will know how to parry a blow that goes there without a... Parierstange.

I suppose you mean the guard (the part that protects the hand), which varies with the design from the simple crossguard of medieval swords to elaborate basket guards of rapiers and the like.

the Gemini full borg already has 1 options space per limb less than normal borgs because it's limbs are designed to replicate the human muscle and bone structure - regular borgs and cyberlimbs don't have this feature.

The 3 optionsspace includes

1 space for the skin & muscles

1 for the support system

1 for the replication of human muscle and bone structure

"Well, an alley isn't the most discrete place to discusse bizness, and I prefer to be comfortable when speaking about money. It's easier to get your mind to the matter hen you you're not checking for bystanders or the odd drunken out troublemaker"

For the 'temrniator' style flesh covering, I designed one for cyberlimbs - it was relatively expensive (1 000 Ed), and took a huge amounnt of space in the limb (3 options spaces).

This could drop to 2 if you don't care much about the way the 'muslces' will appear to move.

In such the case, I hope for their health that the PCs used the breathing space they earned to get a new set of shoes (complete identities), before the new CEO change his mind and decides that dead promotion factors don't speak

The tech frame of standard CP 2020 isn't ready for anything but a lab curiosity in the matter of genetically built 'werewolves' - the cost would be huge, and the time frame to grow them up to adult size and train them to be effective fighters don't fit in.

considering the time required to vat-grow the body to adulthood (about 1 year) and get them trained (with VR, drugs etc) you get a 2 to 3 years time with an impressive price tag. This barring the cost of the facility...

such an investment will be launched obnly if the tech is already proven to be effective, hence it would have been perfected somewhere around 2010 to 2015, experimented with in the 2000's. Cyber and bioware were the name of the game then, not fancy mad-scientist type genetics.

these kinds of 'werewolves' are of no use for the army, except as terror squads versus civilian population. Well, a bunch of bullies with machettes and an attitude are as effective for a fraction of the cost.

I admit that 'werwolves' are cooler, but are more likely the result of a wolf-fetished gang investing into exotic surgery than some kind of genemod - the tech isn't cheap enough for that.

glad to see yo back online, I hope things looks better for you now (and not obnly from an interested gamer pow   )

Once the dispostion with the barman are made (or when meeting Dwight, depending of who's first at Dolmenico's, Kariba heads for the backroom, expetecing some unknown faces to show up. And not too worried about it sicne the bar is a fairly secure place.

considering the way 'ujnglepunk' is turning out - namely, slow death - I'd like to join an hopefuly live one.

I can probably keep the same character (seeign Rio - really nice - maybe tinker a bit with languages to get decent spanish)

I would translate 'the cheapest guy in town' as 'the cheapest for the quality' - He don't have an upper echelon management yelling on him to make at least 75% of stock yearly growth as a financial objective (so said exec can get his performance bonus and buy that absolutely neccesary yacht/carribean real estate/uptown condo/whatever) and can go with a lower profit margin.

Well, the man can also have his 'dark side' a subsidiary for parts of dubious origin or quality (or both) to cater to the wanabee/cash-strapped/miser market. Of course he'll take steps to hide this affiliation.

I'd use only the handle part - or wear really strong cut-proof gloves before trying. Otherwise you're going to loose some fingers.

My suggestion on this :

use a campaign based on the whole group, but have it location rather than PCs- based.

what I mean is involve the whole pack in some defined turf (be it a weapon trafic biz, a neighborhood watch, a corporate toubleshooter group, maybe even a revolutionary group - all you need is a reference point and something that let them go 'back to base' between games)

Then make sure the PCs get at their skills widespread enough (and maybe tack a few specialized NPCs or tech gizmos) to make sure that not matter who shows up they got the necessary skills (but probably at a lower level and without much initiative)

I've not yet done it ofr CP campaign, but it worked for D&D and a Star Wars one, so it chould work for CP