hobgoblin

heh, i would find it more interesting if they could make eink with a high enough rez and color depth to be taken for the real thing, and cheap enough to be used as wallpaper.

who needs windows when every wall can have its own camera feed piped to it?

http://www.coolest-gadgets.com/20081212/su...-indiana-jones/

 

now thats a way to stay prepared while potentially not look it

 

That is pretty cool, although it looks to be a little over sized to wear around the wrist as a normal accessory. Too bad they don't make a version that could be worn as a belt.

from what i could tell, they plan to.

there is a link on their page about it, leading to a "coming soon" message.

the main page, for those that didnt spot the price link in the article:

http://www.survivalstraps.com/index.html

there is such a thing as to much sun to. check out soylent green

or for that matter, any old western at high noon, where only the tumbleweeds are moving...

http://www.coolest-gadgets.com/20081212/su...-indiana-jones/

now thats a way to stay prepared while potentially not look it

not solar powered but can be switched off this time:

http://www.coolest-gadgets.com/20081211/the-led-milk-light/

hmm, now im thinking about this:

http://www.nigelsecostore.com/acatalog/Sun_Jar.html

nah, just a work drone

the guy with the prostetic hands where from one section or other, yes. but he had a person with him that was from imperial usa (or there about). also note that the imperial usa guy had not told the full story, and this was while working with a supposed ally.

and this is a repeated pattern when boys from there show up. just check the gits:sac episode when they are hunting a former special ops in the sewers.

plots within plots. and all out of good old langley...

V3 is like the second Highlander movie.

i would say that depends on how long one have spent playing 2020. but yes, if one try to make any kind of mental connection between the two in story or similar, its mental breakdown time. its best to just view v3 as a stand alone game that happens to have a name in common with a classic.

given the types of people that seems to be old timers on here, im worried no matter what

or maybe im just clinically paranoid, who knows?

heh, bad joke on my part

hmm, can someone say sheep alongside wolfs?

style over functionality?

and with style, not necessarily mainstream style

the horse isnt dead yet?!

and make sure to wear steel toed boots, toe stepping is a fine art

still, even without such footwear one goes numb eventually

same as always id guess...

and in case anyone got the wrong impression, im one of them

Now I run my own Cyberpunk V3 game and I'm very happy about it. Unfortunately the book is not perfect and I came here for looking some solutions, tips and answers Hopefully I'll find many useful ideas

most on this board will probably tell you to torch the book and forget it ever existed...

hmm, im tempted to grab that address just for the hell of it.

female, cp interested, strong signal on my interest-o-meter

nah, all biz here

optionally, get in touch with mike et all and hear if its ok to create "canon" fan material based on the 2020 base.

ok, so getting hold of hard copy versions of the old books may be hard these days...

face it, cyberpunk as a genre have limited appeal at the best of times. and this time round its drowned solidly by the lotr movies, word of warcraft, general high fantasy wave thats going full steam as we speak.

so even if cpv3 was the epitome of perfection when it came to cyberpunk setting and rules system, people would not register its existence unless they where fans of the genre or something like that.

and your new coke, old coke comparison may not be as far of as one may think. but its just as much a kick towards the consumers of said goods because its a classical example of what power habits can have.

people where so used to the taste of cola, some had been drinking it from almost the day they where born, that for them it would be as if the pope one day announced that jesus had a gay relationship with his disciples to change the blend of coke.

my take, and i believe i have stated it before, is that v3 needs to be looked at as a free standing product. yes it have its history embedded in 2020, but its more a child of 2020 then a clone of it. and just as a child will never be the same as the parents, but will have similarities, so is it with v3.

also, mike stated from the day they posted the first previews, that he would incorporate elements that allowed pick up and play style gaming. you get your stats, you pick your alt-cult, you pick some general gear from that and you go play. he built the game just as much to compete with computer games as p&p rpg games of old.

so it have a embedded instant gratification factor in it, that i don't think you can find in 2020. could you afford the equipment to toss cars around in 2020 from char gen? in v3 all alt-cults have something that can do that (in theory), and its affordable from char gen.

so the new coke comparison kicks both ways. sadly i fear that mike have both alienated the old fan base, as well as not really reached out to new gamer markets as to do that you have to market the book in new places (the reason i believe the ipod took of, apple marketed it beyond the computer users that creative and others before them had gone for).

in the same way, new coke was aimed squarely at the pepsi blind tests.

but if you look at coka-cola now, they try to pass it of as something more then a drink, its a life style.

hell, i recall reading a test where people would flag pepsi as the best when not told what they where drinking. but when told it was coka-cola they began talking about how they felt much better then when drinking pepsi. the power of placebo, religion, blind belief all the way.

we humans are creatures of habit. at times we may not even break said habit even at the face of lethal danger.

me, i don't care what game is the "better" or more true to the cyberpunk feel. i see fun in both games, and will not look down upon someone that selected 2020 over v3. but please, i wish to be treated the same way. as in, just because i choose different then "you" in not less of a person then "you". its attitudes like that one that give us groups like al-qaida (probably spelled wrong) or "intelligent design"...

So cut the crap and stare at her tits.

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yes sir!

funny, i got fixer.

i would have expected netrunner or techie...

ah, yes. now i remeber. its the same publisher that made ogl cybernet, mongoose publishing. in there armor is equal to d&d damage resistance. as in, do less damage then the armor can handle and nothing happens what so ever.

quite workable.

and the cyberspace system isnt to bad either. you basicly use the same stats in the cyberwrold as you do in the real one, only that your equipment is programs. most of the simple ones can be written on the fly, like say weapons (cyberspace weapons even have some design mods that alter the difficulty of coding them. want a autofire ranged weapon? no problem, but the dc goes up). and the whole enviroment can be rewritten if the person have the skills.

even the ice is made by taking a class and giving it online weapons

i dont know. i kinda like the gadget system in d20 future. ie, want a multifunction weapon. take the cost of the diffrent weapons, add on a cost mod and presto.

allso works for armors, and other stuff

sure, its a easy thing to add, but i kinda like having stuff like that on paper as it makes things impartial.

err, forgot that one needs both d20 modern and d20 future to realy use the d20 cyberscape book. let me fix that...