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  1. FYI, I'm through with the "detailed categories". Next step will be the Showroom part, with some sample designs.
  2. Which only means Maximum Mike was not exactly on point when writing these for Interlock - 30+ years ago. Personally I have a feeling he got carried away somewhat in some aspects, and could've done it better (but you usually can have done things better - from a hindsight...). 5,7x28 and 4,6x30 were made for the original PDWs. Which means the intended use was to disable a Warsaw Pact soldier wearing a 80's-era body armor, while keeping the entire gun that used them at least as light and easy to use as the era's SMGs (which, in turn, was not conisdered effective against said target). Keep in mind, 'Wolf - the same problem is there with 5,56mm rifles. They were intended against the same target, and intended to disable it, not necessarily killing it. There was the assumption that a guy hit with one of these should obediently hit the ground and call for a medic - effectively becoming hors de combat, and keeping the other side's logistics burdened in a way that a provisional grave with a hastily rigged cross of birch branches* would not. For the intended conflict between NATO and Warsaw Pact, these assumptions were at least based on some experiences. When it turned out the opponent in not as cooperating - various fanatics, often influenced with drugs, and thus willing to fight until their last breath - we started getting field reports from Iraq, Afghanistan and other places about 5,56x45mm being not effective enough (especially when fired from carbine barrels) and, for example, calling for reintroduction of 7,62mm battle rifles. In the meantime, IIRC, the Russians came up with whole families of improved penetration cartriges, based primarily on 9x18mm Makarov, making their SMGs viable against body armor again, and thus invalidating the P90/MP7 PDW idea... * a cultural thing - that's how these tended to be depicted in movies here, especially during the pre-1989 era.
  3. Well, basically same here - .177 equals 4,5mm, if memory serves me. Most commercially available airguns are in that caliber. That being said, one of the letters in the SoF #2 (coming from a Frenchman) speaks about a H&K weapon (SMG? Carbine? I remember reading it in Polish, so can't be sure there...) in .177 he's using, and which he considers to be providing adequate firepower in civilised areas of Europe. Of course SoF editors have a different opinion, but so did they on "wondernines". The weapon itself was never mentioned in any other material. On the other hand, we have a 4,5mm assault rifle in Cyberpunk (Militech M31A1). And RL 4,6x30mm H&K is pretty serious ammo, too (though I'd rate it closer to 3d6 damage of the 5,7x28mm myself). The Czechs are said to have developed 4,38x30mm Libra. I'm not mentioning various rifle cartridges in .17, because that's a different kettle of fish... So, why not a .177 / 4,5mm caseless then...? Even if we assume it uses pyrotechnically-assisted expanding projectiles to have the damage rating it has. The only existing weapon using that ammo is Korean, and while the Suranam machine pistol is an unreliable piece of junk, I believe the Koreans are advanced enough in high-tech to make the ammo work... and also build some weapons that make sense / are reliable enough. Might be it is their PDW-equivalent round? Fast, flat-shooting, limited recoil (due to very limited mass of the tiny 4,5mm bullet), with good penetrating capability due to narrow cross-section. Certainly it should be priced way steeper than a "light handgun" round if there is fuse in such a small round, and especially if the fuse is good enough to not initiate before target's armor is penetrated, but still. ....it beats 5mm (which I see as direct caseless answer to .22 LR) and 6mm (being caseless answer to .25 ACP). Bah, with 1d6+4, I'd say it gives the .38CL a run for its money... Two other obscure calibers I believe could use some more guns are the Malorian ones: - 4mm Flechette (liquid-propelled) of the Malorian Heavy Flechette Pistol, - 10mm SubFlechette (Malorian Sub-Flechette SMG) All in all, it seems Chromebook #1 went pretty wild with some new ideas that weren't followed later...
  4. ...I guess I might go for a few more exotic calibers that'd make for interesting pocket guns. Namely the 7mmCL (Setsuko-Arasaka PMS SMG's caliber, 1d6+2 damage, sub-sonic and thus easily silenced), and .177 CL EX (Suranam Machine Pistol's, 1d6+4, I guess it is a very fast, flat-shooting round thought along similar lines as RL 5,7x28mm or 4,6x30mm).
  5. So, assuming the above, I'd say: Generic pocket-sized .38 CL ('mousegun"): P 0 P C 2d6 (.38 caseless) 5*+1 2 VR 40m $ * magazine size is 5+1d6/2 (round up), plus one in the chamber. Note: if using a longer magazine (at least +2 rounds), the concealability drops to J, but Accuracy rises to +1 thanks to more comfortable grip. $ - basic cost for a pocket mousegun is 150e$, +10e$ per round over 5 (i.e. 160-180e$), plus extra features. Generic duty-sized .38 CL ("ratgun" ) P +1 J C 2d6 (.38 caseless) 9*+1 2 VR 50m $ * magazine size is 9+1d6, plus one in the chamber. $ - basic cost for a duty-sized .38 CL is 190e$, +10e$ per round over 5 (i.e. 200-250$), plus extra features. Extra Features, roll 1d6: 1. Cheap build, -50e$ (ST Reliability) 2. Laser sight, +50e$(+1 to hit, visible spectrum) 3. Flashlight, +25e$ (visible light, after-market modifications that allow IR or UV light do exist). 4. Snag-free design, +25e$ (+1 initiative on a quick-draw, but has to be Aimed for extra round to gain Aiming bonus due to minimalistic sights. Laser sight offsets tat drawback) 5. Carry clip, +25e$ (allows the gun to be clipped to a belt or pocket edge, thus not needing a holster) 6. Roll twice & combine (if a result repeats itself, ignore it) Common brand names seen in the Street with these include Glock 38 (and its duty-sized 39 variant), Federated Arms X38, Beretta Sandcat, Ruger Halo, Taurus Specter, FN FPP (and entire family), CZ P-15, the ill-reputed Dai Lung Manstopper & Kang Tao Dragon (& its concealable Pocket Dragon counterpart). Note: .38CL (aka 9mmCL Short, commonly misnamed ".380 ACP caseless") is classified as Light Handgun caliber for pricing purposes.
  6. Beware, someone might take you on your offer
  7. @ Eraser, thanks for putting the things against the timescale Well, the Russians had (and seem to still have) 9x18mm Makarov (while still low-powered enough to be used in direct blowback guns, it is definitely not the same as 9x17mm / .380 Auto) as their standard service caliber. Once they did away with 7,62x25mm Tokarev (which is still, as I hear, in high demand in the underworld, being a much better ammo against soft body armor than the 9mm's) there were handguns and SMGs in 9mm Makarov all over the Eastern Block. Including machine pistols like the APS. Which, IIRC, was effectively considered too big and too heavy for its intended role.
  8. Well, as I mentioned - I consider a 2d6-rated .38 Caseless autopistol to be a good enough gun for my BOD 4, non-combat-oriented character, assuming it gets loaded with specialty ammo. The problem is - I can't find anything I could upgrade to (assuming the same caliber) once I outgrow the Federated Arms X38 35eb goodness ...now, being better than me versed in the .380 Auto world (I never shot one, closest I had was a 9x18mm Makarov-chambered P-83. Which I really dislike, given how snappy this little son of a gun is) feel free to correct me, but: - from what I was able to find online, modern .380s (as I said in the beginning, I believe the .38 caseless to be an attempt to fill the niche occupied by .380 / 9x17mm Browning Short in the cased ammo world) are apparently exclusively very compact, light, single stack magazine (6 to 8 rounds) autopistols marketed as easily concealable self-defence weapons on the civilian market. - few double-stack-magazine (of, supposedly, up to 12 round capacity) ones do exist. - there doesn't seem to be many duty-sized autopistols in this caliber (if we define a "duty pistol" as a Glock 17 / beretta 92 equivalent). Still, some full-sized 9mmParas are available in 9mm Browning Short as well (like CZ P-07 Duty, with a 15-round mag). With J concealability, X38 seems to fall into the "duty sized" category. Seems to me we could be having two categories: - pocket-sized "mouseguns" - full-sized "Wondernine"-equivalents...
  9. OK, here's the math redone. As far as I can see, typical handgun calibers (2d6 to 3d6 damage - things like .38, 9mm, 10mm, .357mag, 11mm)) can't punch through SP14 armorjack on an average roll, and only those with 2d6+3 or more can do it on a maximum roll (which, as we know, is rather a matter of slim chance) with normal ammo. Even an SP10 t-shirt is likely to stop an average roll there. Very heavy calibers (4d6 damage, like .44mag and 12mm), of course do defeat a SP10 shirt, but they still struggle against SP14 armorjack (12mm does it, on average, with 1 damage point through, the mighty .454 with 3 points). Now, if we switch to AP ammo, we can expect to get between 1 and 3 points of damage through a SP10 t-shirt on an average roll with a typical handgun caliber (again, 2d6 to 3d6 damage), and between 0 and 2 points through a SP14 armorjack. This goes up by 1-2 points if we go for a heavy caliber. Of course, this still isn't going to drop the target dead. If we take BTM into account, we're still most likely to be reduced to 1 damage point. But at this moment, we're more likely in forcing a Stun Save, and taking the target out of the fight... because with these light armorjacks around, we need fully blown rifle-grade stopping power to consistently put around 5-6 damage points into the target with every bullet. and unless we tote around a 7,62mm, we still fare better with AP ammo. medium-caliber handguns fare better with normal ammo only in the realm of leather SP4 armor...
  10. Well, it surely depends a lot on the given campaign and given GM's view of the setting. However, I did a little math recently (not saved it, sadly, but I can recreate the table), and my conclusion was - against a target in modern body armor, basically no handgun is worth a damn. Unless you pull some special ammo, preferably AP (I plan on going API in this particular case). Strange enough, for all those years my players were avoiding the AP, since "it halved penetrating damage". I preferred 11mmCL myselfover the years, but as I said: with BOD 4, I believe my character wouldn't feel comfortable with any handgun over 2d6 damage. And X38 came from number crunching for a decent cheap gun.
  11. ...do you guys think there should be larger drone sizes being randomly generatable? I mean, if "fist-sized or smaller" has a number of sub-categories, then the "large vehicle" could as well... say: typical car van or lorry / small aircraft / motorboat bus or semitrailer rig / bush plane / cutter supertruck / airliner small ship large ship / cruiser superfreighter The caveat here is the ship-sized drones, while technically perfectly possible, are simply too big to be met in a typical urban environment of a cyberpunk world (and even outside of city limits they are kinda too big, unless they are actual ships at open sea - or in space): the streets aren't, usually, made to accommodate things bigger than semitrailers (construction equipment and similar oversized cargoes are, usually, moved under special procedures). not to mention things that big shouldn't, IMO, be randomly encountered...
  12. Well, I got some - actually very modest - advance over the last two days: #1 Transport & delivery - complete Delivery (mainly for various postal or online shopping companies, also, take-away food). While most of these are small to mid-sized packages, there may be very many of them, warranting a large delivery drone. And you never really know what exactly people could order home these days… Includes immobile “post office” stations. General cargo transports (from small boxes to 40' shipping containers) People movers (taxi, ambulance, bus, rickshaw, bullet train, etc - can be as small as a shoebox for personal mobility drones. Think robo-scooter / skateboard) Specialized cargo transport (tanker, freezer, fresh produce etc) Cargo handlers or loaders (crane, forklift, reach stacker etc) Hazardous materials (toxic, radioactive, bioactive) handling or transportation (many everyday chemicals are quite nasty, especially in bulk quantities). Vehicle recovery / maintenance (from actual tow trucks, army’s armored recovery vehicles and ocean-going tugs to vehicles tending to urban commuting devices - or other drones). Stocktaking, inventorying, tallying or quality control (most of these are small drones using visual sensors, but those that have to check bulk goods or take and analyze samples can be quite large) Courier / express transport (made for fast delivery, these drones emphasize speed over other characteristics) Secure transport (made for transporting sensitive or otherwise valuable cargo - think “bank car” - and protect it from unauthorized access / pilferage. Extra sturdy, extra inconspicuous, with extra defenses, or at least able to deny the cargo to would-be catcher by being able to destroy it). #2 Construction/Maintenance: - complete Vegetation care, gardening, agriculture (from robotized flower pots - or planters! - and automated lawn mowers to essentially farming equipment, like robotized crop dusters and harvesters) Animal care (from pet groomers & automatic openers for canned pet food to drones that can manage whole herds of livestock. Including mini-livestock!) Automatic cleaners (sweepers, auto-mops, graffiti removal, window cleaning…) Vermin hunters (anti-rat, anti-insect, anti-pigeon, anti-homeless-person) Cable / pipe layers and repairers Builders: bricklayers, welders, painters, pavement layers, road makers, concrete-finishers, etc. Includes those doing repairs to constructions. Earthmovers - excavators, bulldozers, ground-borers etc. Cranes and other lifting equipment Inspection bots (search for faults, either from outside or inside of an installation) Appliances (mostly mobile lamps of various spectrums, sometimes mobile heaters, other types are less common - but fans, filtering stations, air conditioning bots etc. aren’t unheard of). #3 Commerce: Advertisement vector - with loudspeaker, appropriate display, leaflet dispenser, or simply broadcasting ads wirelessly. Merchandise re-stocker (refilling vendomats, shelf-stocking, and otherwise putting stuff where the clients may buy it) Sales bot (from a simple autonomous vendomat / self-propelled store to point-of-contact, these will run a script to try to sell to customers, with a human salesperson in some hellish third-world call center ready to take over when needed) Market research (spy on shoppers, try to harvest emails and marketing info, or bother everyone with customer satisfaction surveys) Raw materials procurer (miner / borer, drill machine… or even robotic bee for artificial pollination of crops!) Energy source that could be used to power other drones, vehicles or tools (from a mobile battery / powerbank to self-propelled power generators, solar / wind / heat-based generators and even biogenerators using composted organic waste). Keep in mind they rarely move around a lot. Need 4 more here. #4 Surveillance & security - complete Patrol bot (for keeping an eye on a given area - in civilian application, these are used much like security cameras) Hunter (actively tracking designated targets, some may be equipped to engage these targets as well - or to “paint” targets with designator for guided ordnance) Defender (providing support & protection for other bots or human officers - at the very least, as a mobile shield or smoke screen generator) Scout / reconnaissance bot. May include the ability to “paint” targets with designator for guided ordnance. Perimeter security drone (usually operating in large groups, these bots task is to keep unauthorized personnel from entering a given zone - either as a part of security detail, or in defense of an object) Offensive combatant (drone “soldier” / “combat vehicle”). Parasite drone (attacks and takes control over enemy drones, especially via direct interfacing). Fire support drone (provides extra firepower, usually in form of indirect fire: missiles, rockets, mortars or grenade launchers from out of enemy’s line of sight). Obviously, all the bots in this role are armed with appropriate weapons. Decoy launcher - provides decoy targets for enemy fire (by launching flares, chaff, radar reflectors, “distraction device” flashbang grenades, inflatable mockups, holograms or even more advanced decoy mechanisms). If drone’s size makes it impractical as a decoy launcher, then the drone is a decoy itself. Minelayer (lays landmines of one kind or another, or other perimeter defense / area denial accessories: riot barriers, wire obstacles, sensors etc). If it is too small to be setting mines of any decent size, then the drone is a self-propelled mine on its own, designed to reach a point, set itself up, camouflage and wait in ambush. #5 Service & craft Personal care drone (hair stylist, masseur, manicure bot etc) On-demand crafter (robotailor, minifactory, fabricator, etc - usually working off build-in supply of raw material) Cleaner (car wash bot, shoeshiner, laundry machine) Food processor / robochef / fast-food vendor/ bartender Technical (or medical) assistant (from simple “fetch me a flat #9 wrench” to effectively another set of arms and eyes for the specialist, or even self-sufficient technician / medic) Medical assistance drone for the handicapped (from little above of a robotized wheelchair to fully effective hospital porters, and robotic “guide dogs” too. How about a robotized walking cane?). Robo-baby carriage fits here as well. Caregiver (combines personal care & simple medical care duties - baby monitors, nanny drones, senior care bots, robo-nurses) Housing bot (primarily this means robotized, often portable or even self-propelled microhomes: needing to accommodate at least one human being means they are sizeable. This, however, might be widened to cover household appliances - or housing for animals, like robot beehives or bird nests for animals considered to be worthy of such an expense). Telepresence / remote presence drone (intended to allow a person to be present and interact with others - with voice, video / holo and even manipulators). These drones are directly operated or at least chaperoned when actively doing their job, but usually go under their own programming while in transit). Need 1 more here. #6 Entertainment & information - complete Sports drone (from racing drones to robot gladiators) Gaming / game of chance / gambling (inc. dealer) / bookie machine Public address system / news vector (self-propelled TV display or holoprojector, print-on-demand newspaper machine, etc) Religious application drone (from simple music players, through mobile incense burners to potentially robotic performers of actual religious ceremonies) Relay / signal booster station, including wireless telecommunication / internet access - providing platforms. Mascot or child’s toy (from remote-operated toy cars to talking dolls to artificial animals - dreaming of electric sheep, anyone…?) Adult toy. Somehow somebody got an idea this is going to be useful in one’s bedroom (or, well, elsewhere…). Be creative… for humanity endlessly is, in this department! Librarian / archivist bot (sorting and organizing physical objects, especially data sources - books, hardcopy documents, or data carriers - discs, tapes, chips etc). In-between - interpreter, guide, protocol consultant, advisory bot. Work of art (it may have some practical application - you may like to roll it out - but its primary reason for existence is to look / move / sound / smell / blink its lights / whatever in a way people will consider beautiful. Most of these are intended to be moving sculptures). #7 Emergency services - complete Firefighter bot (from a simple water bomber or mobile extinguisher to very sophisticated designs). Search bot (used to find missing persons or, more often, check rubble and debris of a collapsed structure for possible survivors trapped underneath, but open-terrain search bots are used, too - very useful in maritime search & rescue) Medical first aid bot (from self-propelled AED device to robotized ambulance) NBC hazard detector (for finding dangerous chemical, biological, radiological… and perhaps other hazards, too. Kinda like self-propelled Geiger counter on steroids!) Dangerous objects handling & removal (bomb-squad’s bot) Minefield / trap detector (some models are equipped to remove minefields, too). Strong-arm (robotic battering ram, wreck-cutting / prying equipment and similar applications). MedEvac / CasEvac bot (some functionalities may be overlapping with First Aid bots. The difference is MedEvac is primarily intended to get people out of immediate danger, like dragging them out of a building on fire, while a First Aid concentrates on the medical side of things) Drug dispenser (from small, self-propelled one-dose syringes of lifesaving medicaments to crowd-control bots with tanks of artificial, mood-altering hormones) Eco-bot (for handling environmental emergencies) #8 Sanitation and waste management Garbage collector (from self-propelled ashtrays to mobile trash cans to autonomous dump trucks) Composter (collecting and composting biodegradable waste) Garbage sorter / recycler (sorts through refuse to find valuable recyclable materials, and to have all stuff sent to the proper disposal facility) Sanitizer (uses chemicals, UV antimicrobial lamps or other techniques to fight harmful microorganisms in its area of responsibility). Decontaminator (uses chemicals and mechanical techniques to remove harmful substances or radiological contamination) Disassembler / wrecker / scrapper (destroy designated objects. Any decent model will do it making it quick & easy for recycler bots to deal with remains of the object. Primary areas of work are scrapping vehicles - these bots are indispensable in many a wreck shipyard and car wreck facility - and demolishing down old buildings). Water purifier (small models tend to be more of a quality control bot for sensing contaminations, larger are actually robotized water purification stations. Since safe potable water is paramount, such bots are popular with armed forces - but also municipal services. There are also drones used to monitor water quality in natural environments). Need 3 more here. #9 Data collection & survey Automated prognostic station (makes forecasts on its own, or just collects data and transmits them to a prognostic center). Weather forecast drones are the most popular kind. Survey drone (usually used to search for mineral deposits or other natural goods) Map-maker (most of these are aerial, but in some applications ground-traveling ones are indispensable) Digitalizer (transferring data to digital format - via scanner, 3-d scanner, voice recognition and equivalent devices for other input formats). News camera / microphone / other data intake. Specialized media equipment (autonomous movie / still cameras, light sources, F/X bots) Need 4 more here. Now, as you may have noticed (assuming you cared enough to follow it in details) some drone applications did migrated between categories. So, if you have some nifty idea, yet the category is full - there's still a possibility to send on of the existing choices elsewhere.
  13. So, let's update - that's how it looks today: #1 Transport & delivery Courier / delivery (mainly for various postal or online shopping companies). While most of these are small to mid-sized packages, there may be very many of them, warranting a large delivery drone. And you never really know what exactly people could order home these days… Includes immobile “post office” stations. General cargo transports (from small boxes to 40' shipping containers) People movers (taxi, ambulance, bus, rickshaw, bullet train, etc - can be as small as a shoebox for personal mobility drones. Think robo-scooter / skateboard) Specialized cargo transport (tanker, freezer, fresh produce etc) Cargo handlers or loaders (crane, forklift, reach stacker etc) Hazardous materials (toxic, radioactive, bioactive) handling or transportation (many everyday chemicals are quite nasty, especially in bulk quantities). Vehicle recovery / maintenance (from actual tow trucks, army’s armored recovery vehicles and ocean-going tugs to vehicles tending to urban commuting devices or even other drones) Stocktaking, inventorying, tallying or quality control (most of these are small drones using visual sensors, but those that have to check bulk goods or take and analyze samples can be quite large) #2 Construction/Maintenance: - complete Vegetation care, gardening, agriculture (from single-flower-pot-care and automated lawn mowers to essentially farming equipment, like robotized crop dusters and harvesters) Animal care (from pet groomers & automatic openers for canned pet food to drones that can manage whole herds of livestock. Including mini-livestock!) Automatic cleaners (sweepers, auto-mops, graffiti removal, window cleaning…) Vermin hunters (anti-rat, anti-insect, anti-pigeon, anti-homeless-person) Cable / pipe layers and repairers Builders: bricklayers, welders, painters, pavement layers, road makers, concrete-finishers, etc. Includes those doing repairs to constructions. Earthmovers - excavators, bulldozers, ground-borers etc. Cranes and other lifting equipment Inspection bots (search for faults, either from outside or inside of an installation) Appliances (mostly mobile lamps of various spectrums, sometimes mobile heaters, other types are less common - but fans, filtering stations, air conditioning bots etc. aren’t unheard of). #3 Commerce: Advertisement vector - with loudspeaker, appropriate display, leaflet dispenser, or simply broadcasting ads wirelessly. Merchandise re-stocker (refilling vendomats, shelf-stocking, and otherwise putting stuff where the clients may buy it) Sales bot (from a simple autonomous vendomat / self-propelled store to point-of-contact, these will run a script to try to sell to customers, with a human salesperson in some hellish third-world call center ready to take over when needed) Market research (spy on shoppers, try to harvest emails and marketing info, or bother everyone with customer satisfaction surveys) Raw materials procurer (miner / borer, drill machine… or even robotic bee for artificial pollination of crops!) Energy source that could be used to power other drones, vehicles or tools (from a mobile battery / powerbank to self-propelled power generators, solar / wind / heat-based generators and even biogenerators using composted organic waste). Keep in mind they rarely move around a lot. #4 Surveillance & security - complete Patrol bot (for keeping an eye on a given area - in civilian application, these are used much like security cameras) Hunter (actively tracking designated targets, some may be equipped to engage these targets as well - or to “paint” targets with designator for guided ordnance) Defender (providing support & protection for other bots or human officers - at the very least, as a mobile shield or smoke screen generator) Scout / reconnaissance bot. May include the ability to “paint” targets with designator for guided ordnance. Perimeter security drone (usually operating in large groups, these bots task is to keep unauthorized personnel from entering a given zone - either as a part of security detail, or in defense of an object) Offensive combatant (drone “soldier” / “combat vehicle”). Parasite drone (attacks and takes control over enemy drones, especially via direct interfacing). Fire support drone (provides extra firepower, usually in form of indirect fire: missiles, rockets, mortars or grenade launchers from out of enemy’s line of sight). Obviously, all the bots in this role are armed with appropriate weapons. Decoy launcher - provides decoy targets for enemy fire (by launching flares, chaff, radar reflectors, “distraction device” flashbang grenades, inflatable mockups, holograms or even more advanced decoy mechanisms). If drone’s size makes it impractical as a decoy launcher, then the drone is a decoy itself. Minelayer (lays landmines of one kind or another, or other perimeter defense / area denial accessories: riot barriers, wire obstacles, sensors etc). If it is too small to be setting mines of any decent size, then the drone is a self-propelled mine on its own, designed to reach a point, set itself up, camouflage and wait in ambush. #5 Service & craft Personal care drone (hair stylist, masseur, manicure bot etc) On-demand crafter (robotailor, minifactory, fabricator, etc - usually working off build-in supply of raw material) Cleaner (car wash bot, shoeshiner, laundry machine) Food processor / robochef / fast-food vendor/ bartender Technical (or medical) assistant (from simple “fetch me a flat #9 wrench” to effectively another set of arms and eyes for the specialist, or even self-sufficient technician / medic) Medical assistance drone for the handicapped (from little above of a robotized wheelchair to fully effective hospital porters, and robotic “guide dogs” too. How about a robotized walking cane?). Robo-baby carriage fits here as well. Caregiver (combines personal care & simple medical care duties - baby monitors, nanny drones, senior care bots, robo-nurses) Housing bot (primarily this means robotized, often portable or even self-propelled microhomes: needing to accommodate at least one human being means they are sizeable. This, however, might be widened to cover household appliances - or housing for animals, like robot beehives or bird nests for animals considered to be worthy of such an expense). Telepresence / remote presence drone (intended to allow a person to be present and interact with others - with voice, video / holo and even manipulators). These drones are directly operated or at least chaperoned when actively doing their job, but usually go under their own programming while in transit). #6 Entertainment & information - complete Sports drone (from racing drones to robot gladiators) Gaming / game of chance / gambling / bookie machine Public address system / news vector (self-propelled TV display or holoprojector, print-on-demand newspaper machine, etc) Religious application drone (from simple music players, through mobile incense burners to potentially robotic performers of actual religious ceremonies) Relay / signal booster station, including wireless telecommunication / internet access - providing platforms. Specialized media equipment (autonomous movie / still cameras, light sources, F/X bots) Mascot or child’s toy (from remote-operated toy cars to talking dolls to artificial animals - dreaming of electric sheep, anyone…?) Adult toy. Somehow somebody got an idea this is going to be useful in one’s bedroom (or, well, elsewhere…). Be creative… for humanity endlessly is, in this department! Librarian / archivist bot (sorting and organizing physical objects, especially data sources - books, hardcopy documents, or data carriers - discs, tapes, chips etc). In-between - interpreter, guide, protocol consultant, advisory bot. #7 Emergency services - complete Firefighter bot (from a simple water bomber or mobile extinguisher to very sophisticated designs). Search bot (used to find missing persons or, more often, check rubble and debris of a collapsed structure for possible survivors trapped underneath, but open-terrain search bots are used, too - very useful in maritime search & rescue) Medical first aid bot (from self-propelled AED device to robotized ambulance) NBC hazard detector (for finding dangerous chemical, biological, radiological… and perhaps other hazards, too. Kinda like self-propelled Geiger counter on steroids!) Dangerous objects handling & removal (bomb-squad’s bot) Minefield / trap detector (some models are equipped to remove minefields, too). Strong-arm (robotic battering ram, wreck-cutting / prying equipment and similar applications). MedEvac / CasEvac bot (some functionalities may be overlapping with First Aid bots. The difference is MedEvac is primarily intended to get people out of immediate danger, like dragging them out of a building on fire, while a First Aid concentrates on the medical side of things) Drug dispenser (from small, self-propelled one-dose syringes of lifesaving medicaments to crowd-control bots with tanks of artificial, mood-altering hormones) Eco-bot (for handling environmental emergencies) #8 Sanitation and waste management Garbage collector (from self-propelled ashtrays to mobile trash cans to autonomous dump trucks) Composter (collecting and composting biodegradable waste) Garbage sorter / recycler (sorts through refuse to find valuable recyclable materials, and to have all stuff sent to the proper disposal facility) Sanitizer (uses chemicals, UV antimicrobial lamps or other techniques to fight harmful microorganisms in its area of responsibility). Decontaminator (uses chemicals and mechanical techniques to remove harmful substances or radiological contamination) #9 Data collection & survey Automated prognostic station (makes forecasts on its own, or just collects data and transmits them to a prognostic center). Weather forecast drones are the most popular kind. Survey drone (usually used to search for mineral deposits or other natural goods) Map-maker (most of these are aerial, but in some applications ground-traveling ones are indispensable) Digitalizer (transferring data to digital format - via scanner, 3-d scanner, voice recognition and equivalent devices for other input formats). News camera / microphone / other data intake. ...come on, guys, give me a hand: what is the most ungrateful, repeatable, likely menial job you've ever had any contact with, and you'd just love to cede it to an automated system...?
  14. Okay, let's update - that's how it looks at this moment: Say, #1 Transport & delivery 1 Courier / delivery (mainly for various postal or online shopping companies). While most of these are small to mid-sized packages, there may be very many of them, warranting a large delivery drone. And you never really know what exactly people could order home these days... 2 General cargo transports (from small boxes to 40' shipping containers) 3 People movers (taxi, ambulance, bus, rickshaw, bullet train, etc - can be as small as a shoebox for personal mobility drones. Think robo-scooter / skateboard) 4 Specialized cargo transport (tanker, freezer, fresh produce etc) 5 Cargo handlers or loaders (crane, forklift, reach stacker etc) 6 Hazardous materials (toxic, radioactive, bioactive) handling or transportation (many everyday chemicals are quite nasty, especially in bulk quantities). 7 Vehicle recovery / maintenance (from actual tow trucks, army’s armored recovery vehicles and ocean-going tugs to vehicles tending to urban commuting devices or even other drones) 8 Stocktaking, inventorying, tallying or quality control (most of these are small drones using visual sensors, but those that have to check bulk goods or take and analyze samples can be quite large) #2 Construction/Maintenance: 1 Gardeners / vegetation care (from single-flower-pot-care to essentially farming equipment, like robotized crop dusters and harvesters) 2 Animal care (from pet groomers & automatic openers for canned pet food to drones that can manage whole herds of livestock. Including mnini-livestock!) 3 Automatic cleaners (sweepers, auto-mops, graffiti removal, window cleaning…) 4 Vermin hunters (anti-rat, anti-insect, anti-homeless-person) 5 Cable / pipe layers and repairers 6 Builders: bricklayers, welders, painters, pavement layers, road makers, concrete-finishers, etc. Includes those doing repairs to constructions. 7 Earthmovers - excavators, bulldozers, ground-borers etc. 8 Cranes and other lifting equipment 9 Inspection bots (search for faults, either from outside or inside of an installation) #3 Commerce: 1 Advertisement vector - with loudspeaker, appropriate display, leaflet dispenser, or simply broadcasting ads wirelessly. 2 Merchandise re-stocker (refilling vendomats, shelf-stocking, and otherwise putting stuff where the clients may buy it) 3 Sales bot (from a simple autonomous vendomat / self-propelled store to point-of-contact, these will run a script to try to sell to customers, with a human salesperson in some hellish third-world call center ready to take over when needed) 4 Market research (spy on shoppers, try to harvest emails and marketing info, or bother everyone with customer satisfaction surveys) 5 Raw materials procurer (miner / borer, drill machine… or even robotic bee for artificial pollination of crops!) 6 Energy source that could be used to power other drones, vehicles or tools (from a mobile battery / powerbank to self-propelled power generators, solar / wind / heat-based generators and even biogenerators using composted organic waste). Keep in mind they rarely move around a lot. #4 Surveillance & security 1 Patrol bot (for keeping an eye on a given area - in civilian application, these are used much like security cameras) 2 Hunter (actively tracking designated targets, some may be equipped to engage these targets as well) 3 Defender (providing support & protection for other bots or human officers - at the very least, as a mobile shield or smoke screen generator) 4 Scout / reconnaissance bot 5 Perimeter security drone (usually operating in large groups, these bots task is to keep unauthorized personnel from entering a given zone - either as a part of security detail, or in defense of an object) 6 Offensive combatant (drone “soldier” / “combat vehicle”) 7 Parasite drone (attacks and takes control over enemy drones, especially via direct interfacing). #5 Service & craft 1 Personal care drone (hair stylist, masseur, manicure bot etc) 2 On-demand crafter (robotailor, minifactory, fabricator, etc - usually working off build-in supply of raw material) 3 Cleaner (car wash bot, shoeshiner, laundry machine) 4 Food processor / robochef / fast-food vendor 5 Technical (or medical) assistant (from simple “fetch me a flat #9 wrench” to effectively another set of arms and eyes for the specialist) 6 Medical assistance drone for the handicapped (from little above of a robotized wheelchair to fully effective hospital porters, and robotic “guide dogs” too. How about a robotized walking cane?). Robo-baby carriage fits here as well. 7 Caregiver (combines personal care & simple medical care duties - baby monitors, nanny drones, senior care bots, robo-nurses) #6 Entertainment & information 1 Sports drone (from racing drones to robot gladiators) 2 News camera / microphone / other data intake. 3 Public address system / news vector (self-propelled TV display or holoprojector, print-on-demand newspaper machine, etc) 4 Religious application drone (from simple music players, through mobile incense burners to potentially robotic performers of actual religious ceremonies) 5 Relay / signal booster station, including wireless telecommunication / internet access -providing platforms. 6 Specialized media equipment (autonomous movie / still cameras, light sources, F/X bots) 7 Mascot or child’s toy (from remote-operated toy cars to talking dolls to artificial animals - dreaming of electric sheep, anyone…?) 8 Adult toy. Somehow somebody got an idea this is going to be useful in one’s bedroom (or, well, elsewhere…). Be creative… for humanity endlessly is, in this department! 9 Digitalizer (transferring data to digital format - via scanner, 3-d scanner, voice recognition and equivalent devices for other input formats). #7 Emergency services 1 Firefighter bot (from a simple water bomber or mobile extinguisher to very sophisticated designs). 2 Search bot (used to find missing persons or, more often, check rubble and debris of a collapsed structure for possible survivors trapped underneath, but open-terrain search bots are used, too - very useful in maritime search & rescue) 3 Medical first aid bot (from self-propelled AED device to robotized ambulance) 4 NBC hazard detector (for finding dangerous chemical, biological, radiological… and perhaps other hazards, too. Kinda like self-propelled Geiger counter on steroids!) 5 Dangerous objects handling & removal (bomb-squad’s bot) 6 Minefield / trap detector (some models are equipped to remove minefields, too). 7 Strong-arm (robotic battering ram, wreck-cutting / prying equipment and similar applications). 8 MedEvac / CasEvac bot (some functionalities may be overlapping with First Aid bots. The difference is MedEvac is primarily intended to get people out of immediate danger, like dragging them out of a building on fire, while a First Aid concentrates on the medical side of things) 9 Drug dispenser (from small, self-propelled one-dose syringes of lifesaving medicaments to crowd-control bots with tanks of artificial, mood-altering hormones) 0 Eco-bot (for handling environmental emergencies) #8 Sanitation and waste management 1 Garbage collector (from self-propelled ashtrays to mobile trash cans to autonomous dump trucks) 2 Composter (collecting and composting biodegradable waste) 3 Garbage sorter / recycler (sorts through refuse to find valuable recyclable materials, and to have all stuff sent to the proper disposal facility) 4 Sanitizer (uses chemicals, UV antimicrobial lamps or other techniques to fight harmful microorganisms in its area of responsibility). 5 Decontaminator (uses chemicals and mechanical techniques to remove harmful substances or radiological contamination) #9 Data collection & survey 1 Automated weather station (makes forecasts on its own, or just collects data and transmits them to a prognostic center). 2 Survey drone (usually used to search for mineral deposits or other natural goods) 3 Map-maker (most of these are aerial, but in some applications ground-traveling ones are indispensable)
  15. Well, the categories seem to be pretty broad, and I'm short on ideas. A few more days and I'll start rolling them together... As of now: #1 Transport & delivery Courier / delivery (mainly for various postal or online shopping companies) General cargo transport (from small boxes to 40' shipping containers) People mover (taxi, ambulance, bus, rickshaw, etc) Specialized cargo transport (tanker, freezer, fresh produce etc) Cargo handler or loader (crane, forklift, reach stacker etc) Hazardous materials handling or transportation Vehicle recovery / maintenance (from actual tow trucks, army’s armored recovery vehicles and ocean-going tugs to vehicles tending to urban commuting devices or even other drones) 8... 9.... 0..... #2 Construction/Maintenance: Gardeners / vegetation care (from single-flower-pot-care to essentially farming equipment, like robotized crop dusters and harvesters) Automatic cleaners (sweepers, auto-mops, graffiti removal, window cleaning…) Vermin hunters (anti-rat, anti-insect, anti-homeless-person) Cable / pipe layers and repairers Builders: bricklayers, welders, painters, pavement layers, road makers, concrete-finishers, , etc Earthmovers - excavators, bulldozers, ground-borers etc. Cranes and other lifting equipment Inspection bots (search for faults, either from outside or inside of an installation) #3 Commerce: Advertisement vector - with loudspeaker, appropriate display, leaflet dispenser, or simply broadcasting ads wirelessly. Merchandise re-stocker (refilling vendomats, shelf-stocking, and otherwise putting stuff where the clients may buy it) Sales bot (from a simple autonomous vendomat / self-propelled store to point-of-contact, these will run a script to try to sell to customers, with a human salesperson in some hellish third-world call center ready to take over when needed) Market research (spy on shoppers, try to harvest emails and marketing info, or bother everyone with customer satisfaction surveys) Raw materials procurer (miner / borer, drill machine… or even robotic bee for artificial pollination of crops!) #4 Surveillance & security Patrol bot (for keeping an eye on a given area - in civilian application, these are used much like security cameras) Hunter (actively tracking designated targets, some may be equipped to engage these targets as well) Defender (providing support & protection for other bots or human officers - at the very least, as a mobile shield or smoke screen generator) Scout /reconnaissance bot Perimeter security drone (usually operating in large groups, these bots task is to keep unauthorized personnel from entering a given zone - either as a part of security detail, or in defense of an object) Offensive combatant (drone “soldier” / “combat vehicle”) #5 Service & craft Personal care drone (hair stylist, masseur, manicure bot etc) On-demand crafter (robotailor, minifactory, fabricator, etc - usually working off build-in supply of raw material) Cleaner (car wash bot, shoeshiner, laundry machine, vacuum cleaner / sweeper) Food processor / robochef / fast-food vendor Technical (or medical) assistant (from simple “fetch me a flat #9 wrench” to effectively another set of arms and eyes for the specialist) Medical assistance drone for the handicapped (from little above of a robotized wheelchair to fully effective hospital porters, and robotic “guide dogs” too). Robo-baby carriage fits here as well. Caregiver (combines personal care & simple medical care duties - baby monitors, nanny drones, senior care bots, robo-nurses) #6 Entertainment & information Sports drone (from racing drones to robot gladiators) News camera / microphone / other data intake. Public address system / news vector (self-propelled TV display or holoprojector, print-on-demand newspaper machine, etc) Relay / signal booster station Specialized media equipment (autonomous movie / still cameras, light sources, F/X bots) Mascot or child’s toy (from remote-operated toy cars to talking dolls to artificial animals - perhaps somebody actually is dreaming of electric sheep…?) Adult toy. Somehow somebody got an idea this is going to be useful in one’s bedroom (or, well, elsewhere…). Be creative… for humanity endlessly is, in this department! #7 Emergency services Firefighter bot (from a simple water bomber or mobile extinguisher to very sophisticated designs). Search bot (used to find missing persons or, more often, check rubble and debris of a collapsed structure for possible survivors trapped underneath) Medical first aid bot, potentially with MedEvac capability (from self-propelled AED device to robotized ambulance) NBC hazard detector (for finding dangerous chemical, biological, radiological… and perhaps other hazards, too. Kinda like self-propelled Geiger counter on steroids!) Dangerous objects handling & removal (bomb-squad’s bot) Minefield / trap detector (some models are equipped to remove minefields, too). Strong-arm (robotic battering ram, wreck-cutting / prying equipment and similar applications). Drug dispenser (from small, self-propelled one-dose syringes of lifesaving medicaments to crowd-control bots with tanks of artificial, mood-altering hormones) #8 Sanitation and waste management Garbage collector (from self-propelled ashtrays to mobile trash cans to autonomous dump trucks) Composter (collecting and composting biodegradable waste) Garbage sorter / recycler (sorts through refuse to find valuable recyclable materials, and to have all stuff sent to the proper disposal facility) Sanitizer (uses chemicals, UV antimicrobial lamps or other techniques to fight harmful microorganisms in its area of responsibility). Decontaminator (uses chemicals and mechanical techniques to remove harmful substances or radiological contamination) #9 Data collection & survey For the life of me, I can't come up with any idea for the Data Collection / Survey category that wouldn't be very narrow. Or rather into the field of another category.
  16. Glad it was of use. I hope to hear from you about where it fell short - as it is still in the works, there is room for improvement!
  17. That's how we look today: #1 Transport & delivery 1. Courier / delivery (mainly for various postal or online shopping companies) 2. General cargo transport (from small boxes to 40' shipping containers) 3. People mover (taxi, ambulance, bus, etc) 4. Specialized cargo transport (tanker, freezer, fresh produce etc) 5. Cargo handler or loader (crane, forklift, reach stacker etc) 6. Hazardous materials handling or transportation 7. Vehicle recovery / maintenance (from actual tow trucks, armored recovery vehicles and ocean-going tugs to vehicles tending to urban commuting devices or even other drones) #2 Construction/Maintenance: 1. Gardeners / vegetation care (from single-flower-pot-care to essentially farming equipment) 2. Automatic cleaners (sweepers, auto-mops, graffiti removal, window cleaning…) 3. Vermin hunters (anti-rat, anti-insect, anti-homeless-person) 4. Cable / pipe layers and repairers 5. Builders: bricklayers, welders, painters, pavement layers, road makers, concrete-finishers, , etc 6. Earthmovers - excavators, bulldozers, ground-borers etc. 7. Cranes and other lifting equipment 8. Inspection bots (search for faults, either from outside or inside of an installation) #3 Commerce: 1. Advertisement vector - with loudspeaker, appropriate display, leaflet dispenser, or simply broadcasting ads wirelessly. 2. Merchandise re-stocker (shelf-stocking, refilling vendomats and otherwise putting stuff where the clients may buy it) 3. Sales bot (from a simple autonomous vendomat / self-propelled store to point-of-contact, these will run a script to try to sell to customers, with a human salesperson in some hellish third-world callcenter ready to take over when needed) 4. Market research (spy on shoppers, try to harvest emails and marketing info, or bother everyone with customer satisfaction surveys) #4 Surveillance & security 1. Patrol bot (for keeping an eye on a given area) 2. Hunter (actively tracking designated targets, some may be equipped to engage these targets as well) 3. Defender (providing support & protection for other bots or human officers - at the very least, as a mobile shield) 4. Scout /reconnaissance bot 5. Perimeter security drone (usually operating in large groups, these bots task is to keep unauthorized personnel from entering a given zone - either as a part of security detail, or in defense of an object) 6. Offensive combatant (drone “soldier” / “combat vehicle”) #5 Service & craft 1. Personal care drone (hair stylist, masseur, manicure bot etc) 2. On-demand crafter (robotailor, etc) 3. Cleaner (car wash bot, shoeshiner, laundry machine) 4. Food processor / robochef #6 Entertainment & information 1. Sports drone (from racing drones to robot gladiators) 2. News camera 3. Public address system / news vector (self-propelled TV display or holoprojector, print-on-demand newspaper machine, etc) #7 Emergency services 1. Firefighter bot (from a simple water bomber or mobile extinguisher to very sophisticated designs). 2. Search bot (used to find missing persons or, more often, check rubble and debris of a collapsed structure for possible survivors trapped underneath) 3. Medical first aid bot (from self-propelled AED device to robotized ambulance) 4. Medical evacuation drone (scoop the injured personnel and get them out of harm’s way - typically this type is 5. way less adept at first aid than a dedicated medical bot) 6. NBC hazard detector (for finding dangerous chemical, biological, radiological… and perhaps other hazards, too. Kinda like self-propelled Geiger counter on steroids!) 7. Dangerous objects handling & removal (bomb-squad’s bot) 8. Minefield / trap detector (some models are equipped to remove minefields, too). #8 Sanitation and waste management 1. Garbage collector (from self-propelled ashtrays to mobile trashcans to autonomous dump trucks) 2. Composter (collecting and composting biodegradable waste) 3. Garbage sorter (sorts through refuse to find valuable recyclable materials, and to have all stuff sent to the proper disposal facility) 4. Sanitizer (uses chemicals, UV antimicrobial lamps or other techniques to fight harmful microorganisms in its area of responsibility). 5. Decontaminator (uses chemicals and mechanical techniques to remove harmful substances or radiological contamination) #9 Data collection & survey
  18. Splendid! I'll have to rearrange your lists a bit (bulk cargo transport is a transport, not construction), but that's an insignificant detail Also, keep in mind that function is not connected to size. Say, a transport, specialized (tanker) could be of any size - robotized supertanker ship carrying CHOOH2 from one continent to the other, or a minicopter carrying beer-can-sized amount of a chemical reagent, or even insect-sized (and shaped?) drone carrying around laboratory samples. Container transport doesn't have to be limited to 40' freight containers (not to mention, there are small air freight containers, too) but can anything carrying standardized containers of any type. Beforementioned beer can works there, too. Naturally, some applications can't get beyond certain size (people transport must be able to carry at least one human being: even with a robotized gyro unibike you can't really get below the size of a shoebox, unless we're tlaking unborn humans ). And so on.
  19. Care to help me detail the categories more? With lists of 10 within every category? Say, #1 Transport & delivery 1. Courier / delivery 2. General cargo transport 3. People mover 4. Specialized cargo transport (tanker, freezer etc) 5. Cargo handling (crane, forklift etc) 6. 7.. 8... 9.... 0.....
  20. Hmm, let's see. 1. Performing its primary role (for transport / coutrier drones it is their task to be on their way to somewhere). 2. Underway to its assigned destination. 3. Sitting idle (no assigned task right now / conditions not met, it sits to conserve power). 4. Lost, disoriented or stuck / immobilized. If sufficiently advanced, might be calling for assistance and even offering a reward (adequate to the drone's own value and the value of its cargo. A pizza delivery bot might offer a discount coupon, for example). 5. damaged (in accident or attack of some kind), it still retains power and some - very limited - function. Might ask assistance - or become a target for scavengers. 6. It under attack right now! Somebody (or something) is actively trying to disable or destroy the 'bot (it may be anything from an animal that mistook it for a prey, through other drones, to human beings, and for any number of reasons). Can't see any more options right now, so I'd say: 1-4 doing its job 5-6 in transit 7 idle 8 lost / stuck 9 damaged 0 under attack Also, tech level of the drone: 1. Outdated, you haven't seen that model in ages. It is a wonder it is still operational! 2-3. Outmoded, these were all over the place some time ago, but you don't see them around much nowadays. 4-7. Current model. Can't throw a stone without hitting one of them these days. 8-9. Newtech and shiny, they're currently in vogue. those in the know consider them pretty rad! 0. Bleeding edge, you didn't knew this model was released already!
  21. I wonder if "modular construction" would fit here: allowing the owner to quickly and easily re-equip the drone with different tools, thus easily changing its purpose.
  22. That's the spirit I'd love to hear your observations! I'm glad I managed to grasp this entire "system-agnostic" thing, so the table remains useful (though non-specific) with whatever system you play Also, I intend to turn the tables into a sourcebook(let) of sorts - a page or two of bare-bones tables for quick use, a set of tables with longer, more detailed descriptions, to explain what the entires mean, and maybe a couple of sample designs.
  23. Mode of operation: 1-4. on its own. The drone follows pre-programmed routines. Use drone's own competence score. 5-9. chaperoned. The drone still follows pre-programmed routines, and uses its own competence scores, but there's an operator supervising and assigning tasks / priorities as necessary. The operator can assume direct control over drone's actions, but typically there is a whole host of bots being chaperoned by a single operator, so concentrating direct control over any single one means the rest are on their own. 0. directly operated at the moment. The drone is effectively a Remotely Piloted Vehicle, and as such uses Operator's Competence score.
  24. Damn, missed a crucial aspect there - we need a separate table table to determine how good the drone is if remotely operated. And another to randomly determine operator's competence level. If remotely operated, the drone provides: 1. a significant disadvantage to the operator's capability / skill roll 2-3. a minor disadvantage to the operator's capability / skill roll 4-7. no advantage to the operator's capability / skill roll 8-9. a minor advantage to the operator's capability / skill roll 0. a major advantage to the operator's capability to the operator's capability / skill roll Operator's competence: 1. weefle-runner 2-4. amateur 5-7. competent / professional* 8-9 elite 0. master * defined as "skilled enough to make a living by practising a given profession". Default level.
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