Cyberfish
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Well... when taking a critical look at a text, all of your observations basically turn to mush if you limit everything to the subjective... don't get me wrong, subjective is good in most circumstances, but in a practical discussion of a work of literature, you can't just say 'it's all subjective' ... if you do, the conversation is basically over.
Personally, I'm loving Zeitgeist... I just kept thinking "ok... this is cyberpunk... when is cyberspace going to come into play?" ... I think that it's kind of humorous that the very way we try to "nail down" a concept based on its characteristics is fundamentally a modernist practice, and we're talking about a very postmodern example of literature... and postmodern in and of itself isn't something definable, at least in an essentialist sense. If it was definable, it wouldn't be postmodern.
Yah... Zeitgeist is totally postmodern. It just has that vibe. And I'm loving the groove. I especially love when Lech's daughter asks him if it's normal to eat light bulbs. HAHA! That's just the tip of the iceburg, though... it's an excellent read if you're into random stuff like that.
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Hey guys... here's a question... why is Zeitgeist considered cyberpunk? Just because Sterling wrote it? I thought that one of the main characteristics of cyberpunk lit was that part of the setting of the book is cyberspace. I haven't gotten through but about 1/4 of the book so far, but I haven't seen anything about cyberspace or any situations that would easily traverse into cyberspace.
Just wanted to start a new line and see what you guys thought.
LAter
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QUOTE Johnny Depp for Case. Good Call Winter... he would kick ass... he'd have to have more attitude... maybe back from his Vice days
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QUOTE got the idea that Case is a bit of an older guy WTF???
In the book, it says he is 24... and Molly is 20.
I think some of the younger breeds of actors would be excellent for this film.
I dunno... let me get back on this... being that I saw The Matrix before I read the book, I casted it in my mind with the actors from The Matrix... forgive me, it's all I had to go on.
I could imagine the girl who played Trinity as Molly easily... she was badass enough in The Matrix (although by the last of the trilogy, she was too emotional) Molly has to be someone hot, someone who could carry that 'bad ass' vibe and someone who is strong enough of her will to leave Case at the end.
Case... Well... Keanu came to mind (again, I'm sorry)... but it worked well in my mind's theatre. Probably someone who can be really good-looking (remember, this is Hollywood) even when he's grown a few days worth of stubble...
Armitage... I didn't have a good picture of him in my mind, but someone who can pass off a military background and play a good crazy guy would do well... and he's gotta be older, or at least look older when he cracks at the end.
The Finn - I envisioned those gost-like dudes from the Matrix Reloaded... they seem sort-of streamlined to me... and it did say that he looked like he was constructed in a wind-tunnel.
Maelcom and his fellow Zionite buddy - I couldn't get the Zionites from The Matrix out of my head ... Tank and his brother... what's his name... anyway...
Has anyone listened to the cassette rendition of this book? It's done by Gibson himself and he kicks ass with the voices he does for Dixie and The Finn.
You guys got my brain tickin'
Zeitgeist By Bruce Sterling
in Cyberpunk literature
Posted · Edited by Cyberfish
Yah... it's like there's something deeper that all these works have that tie them all together, I don't want to get too farfetched on it all, but it seems that, even though they may not have the same particular characteristics, something spiritual is there that unites them all... it's like humans, I guess... we're all completely different in our own fucked up ways, but we're all very similar in other ways... the similarities are far greater than the differences, even when you look at people from completely different places, although the two theoretical individuals may not seem to have anything in common.