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    Ok, go ahead and laugh... I watched Zoolander the other day after reading Zeitgeist. I was totally floored by the similarities in themes/etc. The main difference is that Zoolander is more obvious in its parodical elements. The commentary about the global marketplace, technology as it has been commodified, drug undertones, Derek Zoolander is programmed to kill the prime minister of Malaysia, there's the whole question of commercial hyperreality.... I was just cracking up at the similarities... So you guys chime in... what do you think? Should I be committed?
  2. QUOTE However, I don't seriously think cyberpunk is entirely undefinable. Rather it exists within a nebulous cloud of characteristics and style. Book A has traits 1, 2, 3 and 4. Book B has traits 3, 4, 5 and 6. Book C has traits 5, 6, 7 and 8. All are cyberpunk, even though book A and book C have no traits in common. But A and C both feel cyberpunk. Meanwhile, book D has traits 2, 5, 7 and 8, and isn't cyberpunk at all. Yah... it's like there's something deeper that all these works have that tie them all together, I don't want to get too farfetched on it all, but it seems that, even though they may not have the same particular characteristics, something spiritual is there that unites them all... it's like humans, I guess... we're all completely different in our own fucked up ways, but we're all very similar in other ways... the similarities are far greater than the differences, even when you look at people from completely different places, although the two theoretical individuals may not seem to have anything in common.
  3. Well... when taking a critical look at a text, all of your observations basically turn to mush if you limit everything to the subjective... don't get me wrong, subjective is good in most circumstances, but in a practical discussion of a work of literature, you can't just say 'it's all subjective' ... if you do, the conversation is basically over. Personally, I'm loving Zeitgeist... I just kept thinking "ok... this is cyberpunk... when is cyberspace going to come into play?" ... I think that it's kind of humorous that the very way we try to "nail down" a concept based on its characteristics is fundamentally a modernist practice, and we're talking about a very postmodern example of literature... and postmodern in and of itself isn't something definable, at least in an essentialist sense. If it was definable, it wouldn't be postmodern. Yah... Zeitgeist is totally postmodern. It just has that vibe. And I'm loving the groove. I especially love when Lech's daughter asks him if it's normal to eat light bulbs. HAHA! That's just the tip of the iceburg, though... it's an excellent read if you're into random stuff like that.
  4. Hey guys... here's a question... why is Zeitgeist considered cyberpunk? Just because Sterling wrote it? I thought that one of the main characteristics of cyberpunk lit was that part of the setting of the book is cyberspace. I haven't gotten through but about 1/4 of the book so far, but I haven't seen anything about cyberspace or any situations that would easily traverse into cyberspace. Just wanted to start a new line and see what you guys thought. LAter
  5. QUOTE Johnny Depp for Case. Good Call Winter... he would kick ass... he'd have to have more attitude... maybe back from his Vice days
  6. QUOTE got the idea that Case is a bit of an older guy WTF??? In the book, it says he is 24... and Molly is 20. I think some of the younger breeds of actors would be excellent for this film. I dunno... let me get back on this... being that I saw The Matrix before I read the book, I casted it in my mind with the actors from The Matrix... forgive me, it's all I had to go on. I could imagine the girl who played Trinity as Molly easily... she was badass enough in The Matrix (although by the last of the trilogy, she was too emotional) Molly has to be someone hot, someone who could carry that 'bad ass' vibe and someone who is strong enough of her will to leave Case at the end. Case... Well... Keanu came to mind (again, I'm sorry)... but it worked well in my mind's theatre. Probably someone who can be really good-looking (remember, this is Hollywood) even when he's grown a few days worth of stubble... Armitage... I didn't have a good picture of him in my mind, but someone who can pass off a military background and play a good crazy guy would do well... and he's gotta be older, or at least look older when he cracks at the end. The Finn - I envisioned those gost-like dudes from the Matrix Reloaded... they seem sort-of streamlined to me... and it did say that he looked like he was constructed in a wind-tunnel. Maelcom and his fellow Zionite buddy - I couldn't get the Zionites from The Matrix out of my head ... Tank and his brother... what's his name... anyway... Has anyone listened to the cassette rendition of this book? It's done by Gibson himself and he kicks ass with the voices he does for Dixie and The Finn. You guys got my brain tickin'
  7. QUOTE I think CP is more or less assimilating itself into other genres. Very good point, dude. Like I, Robot, for example... seems like there's a similar theme, but it isn't exactly cyberpunk... I am guessing on this one... haven't had time to go out and see it.
  8. One of the coolest things that I think Cyberpunk Lit (including "new media") is that it has opened our eyes as a culture to the hyperrealities that we participate in on a daily basis. Any thoughs to continue in the 'benefits' of this type of cultural product?
  9. I kind of get the idea from Gibson's description at the beginning of Neuromancer, and based on the general feel of cyberpunk, it seems like everything's numb... it's like a celebration (wait... 'celebration' is too passionate)-- like a coming to terms with the fact that everything's numb. Our commerce-based lifestyles have sucked out our souls as individuals, businesses, communities, organizations, cityscapes, etc. leaving nothing but emptiness, nether-tones, numbness... an utter wasteland of highs or lows. I guess this is coming more from a perspective that sees cyberpunk as a movement more than as a literary genre. I see cyberpunk as a vivid incarnation of Jameson's "cultural logic of late capitalism."
  10. I just finished a graduate class this summer on Postmodern Lit. and decided to focus my research on Cyberpunk Literature. While in process, I submitted an abstract for my research paper to a language and literature conference in New York (state) in October. My contention is that Cyberpunk is not dead, despite its "commodification" a la The Matrix, etc. My view is that because of the nature of Cyberpunk being so closely tied to our popular culture, its commodification only increases its impact on our culture. It seems that most of the articles that I have been reading talk about how Cyberpunk is dead, ineffective, etc. Maybe from a 'traditional' perspective, acceptance by popular culture means the death of a phenomenon, but I think the rules have to be broken for this one. One article that I read says that William Gibson's works are politically "prophylactic" and that the Cyberpunk movement failed. It says that he is merely an observer rather than someone who has a vision, etc. From a political perspective (meaning changing society through literature), I'm not so sure that radical change is only achieved by one individual. Certainly from a postmodern perspective, we are all receivers of information and we cannot solely take credit for anything we produce. I think that the Matrix trilogy and other popular culture manifestations of Cyberpunk literature, like Gibson's works, may seem to be "prophylactic" because people don't pull out protest signs or AK47s; but the exposure of this to the masses, particularly the young, of this type of hyperreal text will affect us all in a very political way. Sometimes, I think people get too focused on seeing change immediately... Don't get me wrong, I'm a RATM fan all over the place and the 'metaphysical' flavor of The Matrix totally owned me and made me want to climb on top of a building and scream, "IT'S REAL, IT'S REAL... THE MATRIX IS REAL." (I'm speaking figuratively, of course) Anyway, this is sort of an open question... do you think Cyberpunk has lost its vitality? Do you think we're all last year's news and we're destined for an unfruitful existence? Any feedback would be much appreciated. I'm starving for stimulation.
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