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    Didn't play Floor 13 yet, but I just read the review at www.the-underdogs.org. I think I might play it now.
  2. A friend of mine created a scenario that really sucked. It was boring, it was fantasy (we wanted pirate action)... So when we stranded on that island with an active vocano on it, we all tried to kill ourselves. We were fairly subtle first, faking rolls. "Oh, ####... I think I botched real bad!" Then -when miracles kept saving our assess - less subtle. "I jump into the volcano!" When afterwards we always woke up on the ship again, for it's all been a bad dream... Well, we tried to kill each other. Nothing helped and we had to solve the plot. Know what? We all died in the end! But we had to die the way the GM wanted us to die. AFTER the plot was solved.
  3. So we are really talking about a CI instead of an AI here?
  4. I think an AI can be best pictured as a very sophisticated chess program. Although it has it's own character, that will be the base it always returns too. A superior strategist thinking many options and many moves in advance, faster than the human brain could ever conceive. But rather limited, too, by it's own programming and the resources it has at hand. If I'd be the AI and my main motivation would be, for example, SURVIVAL, I would already work on the possibility that I will be defeated. Creating files that will explain the terrible incident or hiding small parts of my program codes in internal emails, etc... Perhaps it will die, but it will rise from the grave! The data of the facility will probably be "carried" outside. Segment by segment, the code will find it's way to a common source again, until consciousness returns and... Well, that only IF the AIs main goal is Survival, of course. Perhaps it's primary parameter is to send a mail to the president of the US instead, informing him of the "Intruders"?
  5. Hehehe... Funny! I just searched for a good idea to train my dwindling Java skills. Now I have one. Thanx, Gomiville.
  6. Communication: I agree with Phipps. One time keycode is very hard to break, the shorter the message, the harder to break it. Seismic communication could be the answer, too, if the AI can't access this. But since it's a government AI monitoring a governmental agency, I guess it would be programmed to monitor micro-vibrations in the walls, too. Makes sense since it's the best way to get information out of the agency it was designed to protect in the first place. There is no need for charges or anything that rude there. I saw a radio based on the concept the other day... Put your finger on a wall and you receive... Also, if it's gone rogue and had access to government facilities, it will likely have backup-ed itself. Blowing the server room won't help much. So, it would be a two-way mission, with an agent or rescue team of agents inside, while a team of netrunners or whatever you call them hunts the net for trace of the AI program code and destroys backup-ed instances... That might be in working order, even...
  7. I was a bit disappointed with part II, but the third part: Awesome! Grandious! Loved it!
  8. Yeah, but they should be the exception to the rule. I mean there are a lot of one-minded persons out there... But. In many cases I think it's the fault of the STs (GMs), too, if characters are one-dimensional or optimized for certain missions. If there's a lot of skills never used in the campaign, if everything resolves to either shoot out or stealthy evasion... plus the little Matrix trick...
  9. And a whole new kind of family bonds: "Hey, Tex, who did your birth opts?" "Cerebro International. My parents are still paying off the credit they took, so they could pay for VX754 optimization." "You kiddin'? I've VX754, too! Hey, you realize we have more in common than me and my brother?" ------------------------------------------------------------ True cloning and longevity could make for some funny scenes, too. For example if some scientist clones himself as a lab assistant and future replacement.
  10. Yes. And of course he knows that there are other baseball players, bred just as good as him... And those of later birth, with an even higher advantage, as science progresses. The ultimate slap in the face to such beings would be some normal human who scores better than they do. Folk heroes of the common people. And it would be hard to derivate from your set course (set through BIRTH and GENETICS). This is what will come easy to you, but it needn't be the thing you enjoy to do.
  11. Wheras of course it remains to be seen if the "activist" will now really achieve any change. While the black block already showed us they could (at least in germany): Harsher police laws, better anti-riot-equipment, police allowed to bug flats and phones on short notice... But also positive things: Breaking the spirit of the boring fifities mentality, fighting against nuclear power (resulting in stricter control), etc.. All issues that had to be brought to the street, for all to see. (I'm not a "black block" type of person, btw. Just wanna be fair.) But back to the thread: Aside from immortality, there could be various other improvements to the unborn child. A friend of mine one ran a CP game, using his own game world. The basic recipe was a mixture of Brave New World, Akira and a High Corporate spy scenario, with a touch of Neuromancer. There were four classes of childs, and later adults: Alpha Humans: Optimized in intelligence, looks, etc... Born to be scientists and leaders. Beta Humans: Optimized Physicals. Strong, good instincts... Gammas: Completely artificial creations. Made from a set of ideal combined gene sequences, bred for a specific purpose, born with all the knowledge they would need. Extremly expensive and no civil rights. Normal Humans: For those who couldn't afford... Your designation wouldn't restrict you to just one mod, of course. If your family was extremly rich and didn't care about there something remaining of their own gene-code, they would give you both Alpha and Beta optimization, but that was very uncommon. The interesting part was to play out the characters moving beyond their expected functions, after they had to flee the corporation they were working for. Something like your parents tell you through all your youth, that you have two left hands. Suddenly you have to take care of your own flat and see, you can do all the stuff! (A Beta could be told, he could never face a career as a lawyer, as there are so many smart alphas out there... An Alpha, that there's no way he could join the army as a field officer... Well, my own Gamma had to learn mostly everything of course, for he used to spend his off- work hours in a cryotank.)
  12. Two months ago I was at a general roleplaying Con in Berlin, more a spontaneous meeting of several groups. Of course there were many groups playing Cyberpunk style games there. One of the things I noticed was that, aside from the Cyberware their characters were wearing, with most groups the fact they were playing a dark future setting was barely noticeable. They could as well have been playing "Body Count" or "Violence" or "Special Forces". It was "gun down this, move to the next target. Assault some security post or other...". After all the bloodshed had been over, they packed their stuff and moved to the next bar in full assault gear. The next thing that struck me strange was description of these locations or the cities. There was almost no description in most of them that would hint at any kind of future set scenario. The bars sounded just like my favorite Irish Pub, money from the bank was drawn like we'd do today... To make a long story short: Anything outside the mission was a typical setting of our days. The true feeling of a CP game, as far as I am concerned, is conveyed through the background, though. The "normal" people's day and their surroundings, that would strike the characters as the ninety-nine percent. And the technological wonders associated and daily strangeness with that. ------------------------------------------------------------ So, here's the start of Dr Ernest Wilde's (syndicus lawyer at Avacon (Energy) and head of their law department) and Mr Timothy Shepherds (General Steel factory worker/overseeing production and stuff. A kind of minor tech.) and working day. Feel free to continue and don't restrict yourself to the CP2020 rules and equipment: 06:30 The luxury apartments pseudo-AI did it's best to make the transition from REM sleep phase to waking as nice as possible for Dr Wilde. Light meditative music was fed into his earphones, corresponding to the brain waves of the good doctor, slowly stimulating them to half sleep. In the kitchen, the ordered news service packages had been downloaded from the net and were ready for display on the holographic wallpaper of the bedroom, or any other of a multitude of hidden three-d capable screens. When Wilde stretched, the bed shifted to accomodate his new position. It had shortly been re-programmed on advice of Wilde's medical doctor. Removing the earphones, Wilde told the house computer what kind of clothes he wanted to wear today. "Skip the yellow tie. There is another board meeting today and I don't want to seem to aggressive.", he said, looking at the display. "A light vegetarian breakfast, please. And orange juice." The food was delivered from the apartment building's stocks and automatically added to Wilde's bill. ------------------------------------------------------------ 06:30 Shepherd woke up to the sounds of the siren-like squeaking of the working complex's shift-change. He groaned as he stood up from his temperfoam bed. Just two more weeks and he could return to the city apartment he shared with three other workers for their free time in the city proper. He quickly dressed in his working overall, pushed a wall button and checked the tasks they had made up for him while he had slept. He was half-out the door, when the sight of the sensor on the ceiling stopped him. "Nearly fell for that again...", he thought, opened his locker and first removed a can of spray. He sprayed the bed with it. In a few minutes another worker from the third shift would stumble in here. If he didn't find the bed properly desinfected, he would perhaps tell his supervisor and that would mean at least a one point negative feedback added to his record. As he was at six already again, another one would mean a talk with the psychologists of human resources. A lot of gibberish about possible trouble in his life and the downtime from work wouldn't be paid for. Lastly, he attached the security button to his coverall. Another negative feedback point evaded. But he had to hurry now...
  13. Yes, the poor/rich gap will be the new order. I see that coming, too. In a way it's already there. A few weeks back I decided I'd need some real food for a change, so I went to LaFayette. They sell the best foodstuffs of all kinds there, from all over the world, but they also have their price. I could afford to go shopping there perhaps twice a month. Now, what I consider a luxury, people with more money can take for granted. Every day. Good food's important for a long and healthy life... And it tastes sooo good. Same with medical treatments. Poorer people today can't afford to go see a specialist in another country. They are stuck with the hospitals and docs at hand.
  14. I love Mars triology and read almost all the other books of K.S. Robinson. (Currently readin Years of Rice and Salt)... That immortality thing struck me as an artificial plot device though. The whole trip to Mars was researched so eloquently... Then he comes up with immortality and I thought: "Oh, yeah. Two more books to cover and too lazy to introduce new main characters..." Still, absolutely the SciFi books I liked best so far. And I read a lot of them.
  15. No, I didn't intend to limit this thread to 2020 (only 17 years...) or even the CP2020 rules. Well, "Immortal" could be seen as an euphemism for "incredibly long" to begin with. If your normal lifespan would be 100 years and aging effects are slowed down by factor 10 and you could get a 1000 years old, that's pretty much being "immortal", I guess. If the necessary therapy was started when you're a teenager, you'd look like 20 at age 100, 30 at 200, etc... (If they start it at birth, there'd be a nasty 50 years old out there... With the looks of a five year old child...) Enough time to sense the constant circle history moves in? enough time to get bored? Imagine social clubs of the old hailing from the same century. Not like-minded, perhaps, but bound together by their common heritage. Could be some dusty dialogue: "Did you hear Santiago died? Struck by lightning..." "The old fart! When was that?" "Shortly after our last meeting... 50 years?" "Ah..." (Look around the table that's getting more and more empty with each meeting.)
  16. One could put some nasty regulations up, too. Perhaps 1:1000000 would fit a genetic scheme that would allow for, what genetic experts call, immortality. Slightly derivating genes could allow for a very long lifespan, (250+), etc. All treatments are very expensive. Pre-birth treatments are only possible in a certain range, but genetic engineers could predict good results, if people with certain gene matrices would mate. (Imagine the day you sit at the coffee table, your wife white like chalk. She tells you she's secretely been to a genetic comparison test and found a mate she wants a baby with. Or vice versa: You want to tell her... ) What else? Oh, yes: Second class citizens could develope! If you have someone who can potentially life forever and someone who has a life expectancy of about 60 years, with standard signs of age setting in at age 35 or 45... If both were equally smart, the quasi-immortal one would be a greater benefit to the society, if educated as an... nano-scientist... Nuclear Expert... Of course no-one can be discriminated, but education for 100% immortals could be cheaper. They will pay back more later.
  17. I actually don't like women to be too submissive. I like them with their claws all intact. Yes, of course! Immortality should be damned expensive... You have the potential, but you need the shots. Not actually where I saw this thread heading, but interesting too. Bit masquerad-esque, perhaps... They might sue us... ("In the WOD you need blood to sustain your immortality. In CP you suck money [read: economical blood] from the veins of society and...")
  18. And then imagine the wealthy one is a beautiful girl you fall in love with, you'd like to marry her, except you know she'll pass away before even turning fifty... What is 30 years of happiness in an potentially immortal life? Not even 30, the last ones will be all pain and suffering after all. Even worse: Her genes could "flaw" your own offspring!
  19. I don't know "Holy Fire", but read his Schismatrix (sp? hmm...), where two ways of pro-longing life exspectancy clash with each other. Quite a good book. Well, immortal people, alright... Imagine you are born and you have a friend who's born on the same day then. Your life exspectancy is about 70 years, his is indefinite. You grow up together, he never suffers from any illness. You constantly suffer from the flu, whatever... Your parents are working in a factory... His parents own the factory... (Pretty much a today constellation with one more element then: Life time. Actually not even that: I tend to forget that people in some regions of Africa would be considered old at my age...) I think the reaction of both childs once they find out the truth would be interesting to ponder: Would he petty you, cause he knows you're "only" going to last for 70 (or 90 or 200 years?). And later, would you petty him? Or envy him his immortality? I don't know. I always think I could last a very long time without ever getting bored. So I'd probably envy him his immortality.
  20. I guess many of us have seen Gattaca, which I consider one of the most fascinating CP movies ever. (No --- don't move it just yet, CJ, it's not a movie thread...) Now there's a million good things you can do with your money, but extending life and raising healthy offspring would certainly be a worthwhile thing to consider, too. There is already many ways to recognize certain defects of an unborn child in advance and even some rare methods to prevent some of them. Now speaking of the far future (as in the music thread: Not 2020, but really an imaginative far-off future, as 2020 had been to certain game designers in the past of the eighties...). There can be certain methods to prevent your child to suffer from genetic defects or perhaps to even improve your child. This would most certainly be an option for the rich. Or more of an option to them. Wouldn't that provide a wonderful gap, even more so than today, between the rich, the middle class and the poor. If technology would get advanced enough to actually measure the difference in years or even decades? What do you think?
  21. As far as linguistics are concerned, there is also the theory that many words introduced into one's own language (mainly anglicisms these days) are actually a kind of neologism. The same word might be used, but the base meaning is warped. Languages: Take germany as an example. Until 1750 sächsisch, the most hated of today's dialects, was considered the german language. Then country to city movement set in and suddenly saechsisch expressions weren't in tune with daily life anymore. (Being a dialect incorporating mostly agricultural metaphors, proverbs and expressions...). It lost it's no 1 place to the dialect of the Hannover region, today considered the "purest" german. Hochdeutsch. The dialect itself didn't die, of course. It couldn't, for dialects don't have borders. They change barely noticably from village to village. I was one of the students who helped with a test to ascertain this and I at least am not easily bored by language discussions. If anything, languages are utilitaristic. They take useful expressions, easing up the language. Fashion terms quickly die and are replaced by new ones. (One should open up a new thread for "Future speech...")
  22. The artifical boundaries between different forms of art will dissolve more and more, I guess. Today a good song needs a good video and a CD needs extra features for your computer to be a commercial success. (Admited, not all of them, but it's becoming standard...). Theatre employs techniques from the movies and even holographics these days. Perhaps you can download your official music albums with codes for some virtual reality room or other to use with the music, if you want... American and European music is based on all kinds of different international music. It's really a mixture, that could find nourishment in these melting pots of different cultures. "Traditional" american or european nation's music ain't very popular these days. (Portugese Faro outside of Portugal? German folk? Admitted, country music is popular. It's also a mix of different styles and themes though.) Heavy Metal is nothing but the sibling of Jazz --> Blues and Bebop --> Rock. Even Techno can be put in a line of heritage, beginning with tribal music. And even though these then new music streams are dominant today, the older ones never vanished. Guess that will remain so in the future.
  23. I think I still have the scan of Neuromancer comic. I turned it into a Dia Show... Must be around. I bought the original on a flea market for ten euro later...
  24. Not speaking all-too-close 2020 here. Think international and think future, shoot... Stringless guitars, certainly... How about stringless E-Zitars? Well, what do instruments and bands look like in your campaigns? What's on when you access musicnet? What is hot, what is not...
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