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  1. Being that some of the posters on here appear highly educated - or at least highly motivated to search for information - can someone tell me if the law that prevented Corps from giving money also prevented other large organizations like Unions and religious groups? I know the furor has been over the money Corps would flood in to the political landscape, but I'm just wondering if they were singled out for exclusion by the original law or if some other groups were as well and the media just doesn't care.

  2. If things were really that bad, the Ork's'd wipe The Empire out.

    If they're not, why ham up the rarity of hover-tech? I don't get it.


    (If you can resolve this for me, I'll consider playing)



    Tech is rare because you have three major bureaucracies each trying to impose their supremacy upon the others. Sure the Mechanicum has warehouses full of tanks, armor and weapons, but if they give too many to the Administratum for use by the Imperial Guard, or to the Ecclesiarchy for use by the Sisters of Battle, then they lose a bit of influence don't they? By only supplying enough to meet the minimum requirements they exert their influence over the others.


    Similarly, the Administratum fills priorities based on the top down bureaucracy ideals of the Lords, then the Bureaucrats, then the military, and if anything is left store it in the warehouse because the civilians really don't need it anyway! Mixing the worst practices of a communist state - Commissars in the IG to contradict Officers and shoot them if they deem necessary, petitions filled out in triplicate in order to be told you have been standing in the wrong line for the last week and a half, etc. - with the ugliest, dirtiest superstitions of the Dark Ages creates a stagnant society.


    In spite of all that, the Imperium can resist the orks because that race doesn't truly produce anything. They scavenge and salvage their way through life, fighting each other as much as they fight the Imperium. And when they do manage to come together for a WAAGHHH!, then the Imperial bureaucracies will pull together enough to eradicate the threat.


    Personally, I've never encountered an RPG or miniatures game that didn't have serious flaws in either the story or the mechanics of the system. A long range missle in Battletech has a range of 690 meters???? A sniper rifle in Mechwarrior has a range of 150 meters? Are you fucking kidding me? How does the Camarilla actually cover up Sabbat atrocities in Vampire? How many threads are there on this board about rule re-writes and clarifications for CP? Like acting, the point of any of these games is to escape from who and where we are and to stretch our abilities to unknown limits. The question boils down to whether or not there is enough redeeming material in the game to make it worth the work of playing. :D



  3. Well see now that's my big problem, I can look at say, Iran, from the outside for inspiration but that doesn't do me any good as far as being able to empathise with the character and TBH playing a highly religious, superstitious, technologically backwards character is something I'm not particularly interested in as I would pretty much consider them an idiotic waste of space.

    I like 40k visually, I think it looks pretty impressive but there is quite a lot about the background that I would tip ex out if I ever ran a game, especially some of the newer stuff.



    Why would you need to play a highly religious character? Wystan Frauka, from the Ravenor series, never did or said anything that intimated a particular religious zeal. Actually, he spent most of the series smoking and reading porn - when he wasn't pissing people off with his psychic null ability. Seems like a character I could roleplay fairly easily. Harlan and Zeph never spouted any teachings or prophecies or even stated much feeling either way, they just toted huge freaking guns and knives - and complained about Ravenor waring them. Kara was a dancer / acrobat who was trained to be an assassin. Outside of the Inquisitor himself, most of the party seemed fairly relaxed about the whole religious aspect of things, they were just doing a job.


    Seems like a Rogue Trader campaign is more to your liking. Being on the fringes of the Imperium, occasionally encountering Xenos and deciding to trade with them or exterminate them, and discovering lost human worlds who may or may not still follow the Imperial Cult.


    Even the Space Marines who are often denigrated as being virtual automatons, express doubts about their beliefs, themselves, and Imperial and Astartes teachings in the novels. All of the Chapters have some sort of flaw that the Marines invariably exhibit - my favorite being the Imperial Fist from the Inquisition War series. Captain Lexandro D'Arquebus spends a good portion of the series etching the bones of his own hand, even though it is still attached! He hides this activity from his fellow party members because he does not want them to know of his activities, lest they think less of him and thereby his Primarch.


    As much as they beat the drum that the Imperium walks a single, straight line in accordance with the doctrines of the Imperial Cult the novels all revolve around how far the characters deviate from that line.

  4. I personally have less problem with a world completely unlike our own, versus the cyberpunk setting. It's hard to GM new players to CP because they see the price for things like cell phones and start bitching about how inaccurate it is. Then they start complaining about the timeline aspects and how "wrong" they feel they are. It becomes very difficult for them to disengage the reality portion of things and embrace the game.


    Fantasy and/or 40K, on the other hand, are so alien that they have no choice but to accept the setting and explore it. Movies like Blood of Heroes would be a good guide for many new players. I think many of the quasi-religious portions of the tech theme can be avoided or ignored by omitting Mechanicus based characters - but a player who is comfortable with those trappings would bring an interesting facet to any game.


    I totally agree that I want the world developed for me, so I can tweak it to my style and story. That is probably why I prefer Forgotten Realms over Eberron in D&D, since there is so much more fiction and world development for the Realms. I don't use any of the characters from the novels, or the story lines published there; but knowing how people in Waterdeep act as compared to the city of Luskan makes it much easier for me to storyline things. Likewise, I have been playing 40K and Fantasy since the late 80's and have been reading the sourcebooks, the magazines, and the novels for so long that I have a good feel for the setting. My biggest problem for 40K would be the expanse of the solar systems. They have never done a good job of presenting the scope and measure of the setting in my opinion, and I wonder if they have addressed that in the new rpg.


    If you haven't already read them, I would suggest reading the Eisenhorn and Ravenor series. Both are multi-book stories about Inquisitors and their entourages. The books do a terrific job of exploring the various levels of Imperial society and are an excellent primer for anyone looking to play Dark Heresy, and the Rogue Star books do a great job for the Rogue Trader groups.


    As for purchasing either of the books, I have read many complaints about how limiting Dark Heresy and Rogue Trader both are. Several people have laid out how many levels a character must attain before being able to use a bolt pistol, even though that should be a basic weapon for someone in either setting. Yes they are rare and treasured items, but the characters are supposed to be amongst the elite or privileged, or both. Plus, I am not a fan of any system that is overly controlling, or generally limiting of character development and options. I am sure I will pick up a copy of each next time I am given a gift card to the bookstore, or they have a killer sale, but I won't drop full price on either.

  5. Considering all of the fluff material in the sourcebooks, not to mention the Eisenhorn, Ravenor, and Rogue Star series that dealt with various worlds and cultures, I wouldn't think it would be too difficult to design any style of world you could envision and desire. Whether it would be the highest tech, or savagely primitive, the Imperium is home to all of them - sometimes on the same planet! Look for Necromunda material if you care to see the manner in which you can vary things between the high Spires and the base of the towers.


    As far as the topic at hand, I've never worked for any of the companies, but the store I managed was only allowed to carry Games Workshop material - the owner was a freak and unable to envision the proper way to run a retail outlet. Dealing with the salesmen from GW was one of the most infuriating aspects of that job. It was insane how much product they would push on one small store, their minimum ordering requirements that required you order 2 of most anything you wanted, and how they would call and threaten to stop supplying us if they received information we were selling below full retail - never mind that our store was located in an outlet mall that required a minimum of 5% discount on all products! Incidentally, after moving back to Colorado I found a GW store in the Denver version of the same mall, selling at discount - but since it was a GW store I guess that was allowable. GW was a real pioneer in the table top setting, they have consistently created material to develop their settings in the forms of fluff, novels, and video based games, and I still think most of their mini's are the superior product available; but as a corporate entity they are completely over the top, oppressive, and fully deserving of an Arasaka clone award.

  6. It of course brought up the question about how they managed to get a picture, since the webcam surveilance system was only to be used in case of theft. As in their own rules said they could only activate it in case of theft. the Laptop in question had not been reported stolen by the way.


    Since when have people in power upheld the rules? Why was there even a "webcam surviellance" option anyways? Laptop is stolen, activate the webcam, see a grungy apartment - and that narrows the search how??? If the concern was theft or loss, why weren't all of the systems lo-jacked? The mantra that cameras - red-light, speeding, cctv, etc. - are there for our protection has been one of the sickest lines to come from those above.

  7. Generally I have the character come up with their backstory before rolling the life path. They have to figure out why the chose the role they did and what their motivations and goals were. Then after the life path they have to examine how their character has been affected by all of these random events. Its great to see a player take their uber-monster and rationalize what happened on a job that got them addicted to drugs, or how they will handle the Corp that is hunting them. Plus the friends they gain make great contacts, especially for non-Fixers, and enemies give me fantastic tools to monkey wrench their current mission without hearing that I am "out to get them."


    The more tools at your disposal, the grander palace you can create!

  8. We've already added to the maintaining loyalty issue by adding a modifier for time worked versus pay. The book states that you can have a faceman work up to 36 hours a week, while only being required to pay him his base profit for the month. In the example provided in Wild Side the faceman would normally work 9 hours to generate 300eb of monthly profit, but as your employee he can work up to 36 hours a week while you still only pay the 300eb. This seemed blatantly wrong. So I house ruled that every multiple of extra time worked for your organization is a +1% increase on the disloyalty roll, with a matching -1% decrease for every multiple of standard pay. So, if you pay him 1200eb you have balanced the increased time with increased pay (both are x4) so you have a zero modifier on the roll.


    Most of the Organization is covered by the PC's - the solo for protection, the medtech and the tech taking care of the pieces parts, and a runner to drive the vehicle. We have just been trying to figure out how much the office staff should cost and whether it should just be taken from the monthly income generated by the organization, or if the player should have to deduct it from the "profits" (his monthly salary) he gets paid at the end of the month.

  9. Basing it on the Corp scale is definitely workable, especially if you break down the 1-5 level pay the same way Wild Side does for facemen. I would assume by this, you support the idea that paying office staff should be taken from the monthly profits and not just wrapped in to the operating expenses?

  10. I hate to post a question that may have already been covered, but the search results yielded nothing helpful and I've spent 3 days tooling through older posts with no luck.... So here goes -


    Wild Side provides a terrific description of how much it costs to hire a faceman, but does not seem to cover the monthly costs for secretaries and accountants - two types of mundanes that it advocates a fixer to employ. As a GM, is it worth hassling over their paychecks? Or should I just consider that the "profit" the fixer receives at the end of the month is after payroll deductions? As a rule, I would rather have the player worrying about the loyalties of his staff and their efficiency rather than their dollars and cents; but I enjoy making things realistic. If someone has already created figures for npc's like these, or ways to flesh out the larger organization a fixer might have in support, I would really like to hear your thoughts.



  11. I know how frustrating it can be when you can't find players, and how that can lead someone to walk away - I've done it too. Thankfully, a gamers love of literature often keeps the gaming spirit alive and supports it until that unexpected gaming group appears. I hope your time away is a short one.

  12. If it's properly sealed, and maybe has a decon shower at the top of the stairs, this thing would be perfect for relic recovery from the irradiated zones. Roll in to Baghdad, loot the museum, roll back out to the desert and drop the tailgate to have an elevated platform for your auction. Corps and the EU elite would pay handsomely to any runner who could reach the site and purchase these "lost" antiquities.

  13. What about adding in some Skinny Puppy, Manufacture, or even Bauhaus? Anyone else remember the second season of War of the Worlds back in 1990, starring Adrian Paul? The club scenes where Skinny Puppy is blaring as the crowd hangs on the chain link fence trying to get at the band... always how I pictured chromer clubs.

  14. I was 8 years old when I saw Excalibur in the movie theater and it hooked me. Soon after I convinced my parents to buy me a copy of 2nd edition D&D and immersed myself in the books. It was always hard finding people to play with, usually the "group" was a gm and single player but it was funner than hell. I became a regular at the one store in town that carried any rpg stuff and would often spend the afternoon flipping through the various books.


    A few years later Twilight 2000 came out and I became fascinated by a system that did not require characters to have an alignment and behave in a certain manner. The dark feel and setting of the game was inspiring. Having real life images and places to draw upon, rather than a pure fantasy setting, fueled my desire to learn everything and anything I could about history, politics, and the military. It still wasn't easy to find a group of players, but at least I could spend hours reading through the books and the adventures and plan what I would do as a character and how I would build my guy. I would make character upon character for any setting I had and flesh them out with a back story and personality. If only I had the talent to draw... :(


    When I went to middle school, it was easy to find a group and we raced through system after system - TMNT, Battletech, Paranoia... anything that allowed us to be off the wall. When I found CP, our group knew we had found what we were looking for. The campaigns never lasted long, and game sessions were frenetic - too much Jolt Cola, too many hyper-intelligent teens - but we had a blast making characters and designing groups.


    I moved on to the original Rogue Trader late in high school and found I had a good talent for painting the figs. Soon I was playing 40K and fantasy almost every weekend. Living here in Colorado Springs, it was always difficult to keep rpg groups together because the military kids moved on so quick, and the large religious community would demonize us - that was the time when nightly news was blaming murders on D&D and calling all rpg'ers satanists. Miniature groups were ok though because we had adults who favored the historical side of things as members and sponsors, so people looked the other way. Every once in a while someone would break out an AD&D set and we would recall the fun of pen and paper.


    In '98 I got a call that brought me my dream job - a chance to manage a game store. So the family and I packed up and moved to Phoenix. I had plans for all sorts of gaming groups and store events - only to have them crushed by my friend, the owner, who announced that I would only be allowed to stock Games Workshop material, and that any rpg would be banned because of his new found religious beliefs. It was devastating, but I made the best of it while it lasted.


    I took 8 years off of gaming after that for various reasons, but eventually fell back in to a D&D 3.5 gaming group 2 years ago. We've been playing regularly ever since, and 3 months ago I convinced them to take a look at the CP stuff I had. Only one person in the group, other than myself, had any experience with the game, and several of the group are too young to remember Blade Runner, but they've taken to it well. We do movie nights every so often to expose the younger members to the genre - Blade Runner, Avalon, District B13 (best way to describe the combat zone I think), Fifth Element, and some unusual asian anime one of the members gets from relatives in Korea have all been on the menu so far.


    My biggest beef with CP when we talked about playing it though, was the sparse equipment descriptions and graphics. Being unemployed, I had lots of spare time so I figured I would hit the internet and see if I could at least flesh out some gear with some good pics and such. When I came across Datafortess, it blew my mind. To find that anyone was still supporting a dead game system, and so strongly was a surprise. The amount of information collected from other sources, and the amount created by the crew was amazing. From there I discovered this site and I have found so much inspiration for the game I am designing, I just hope the group survives long enough to enjoy it.

  15. Jordan is not listed as one of the nations destroyed in the conflagration, nor is it listed as a surviving entity. It seems that perhaps the nation is destroyed in another manner. The nation does not have enough water resources or sustainable agriculture to feed its population. Also, it has been a destination for "medical tourism" since the '70's.


    The population is already scrambling for food as the world situation worsens and tensions rise. The refugees fleeing the fallout from the nuclear attacks flood in to Jordan from eastern Iraq, south east Syria, and parts of Saudi Arabia. A population already taxed to feed itself is inundated by people seeking the advanced medical clinics Jordan is known for. The situation rapidly deteriorates and the chaos consumes the nation. The areas of the country that can actually sustain farming quickly become armed camps or get over-run and destroyed by hungry mobs. The Israelis and Syrians reinforce their borders with armor and infantry units, probably occupying any usable land nearby for "defensive" purposes. The central government collapses, leaving only isolated farmers and marauding military units to oppose the panzerboys who routinely travel across the vast, uninhabited desert.


    Amman becomes a fortified city. The religious and cultural diversity that the city is known for allows the various groups to unite in an us versus them scenario as they forcibly put down the riots in the refugee camps around the city. This is an extended and bloody conflict which prevents the authorities from doing much of anything across the country. By the time the situation is under control, the countryside is lost.


    The port of Aqaba is decimated by the Israelis as they attempt to stem the flow of refugees who are using the facilities in an attempt to reach safety in Israel. The ruins of Aqaba become a smugglers paradise, while all legitimate cargo now passes through Eilat, Israel - an unfortunate and unforeseeable result of such an ugly conflict according to Israel.


    I can picture Petra once again becoming a hub of desert trading as the Bedouin combine modern tech and ancient architecture to revitalize the water management system that made the city a power in the centuries before Christ. There wouldn't be a lot of neon and chrome, but I can see camel caravans make camp around a panzer motor pool. Perhaps this is unrealistic based on modern trade routes, but the idea of those beautiful stone carved facades housing cybered smugglers is inspiring.

  16. Perhaps this is covered in another post, but what becomes of the poppy and coca areas affected by the DEA designer plagues? Can they still be utilized for other crops or are they rendered infertile for some period? The Beqaa Valley of Lebanon is well known for the wine vineyards which have been in existence since before Roman times, but also well known for their narco fields. If they can no longer produce poppy, can they be turned in to a breadbasket for the Middle East? Of course, that is dependent on whether the region's crop lands have been affected by nuclear fallout in a manner similar to Turkey. The description that Israel and Syria survive virtually intact might indicate that Lebanon is spared from much of the fallout.


    Whether the Syrian and Israeli forces ever withdrew in '90, as they did irl, there can be quite an argument made that Beirut becomes a very vibrant port by 2020. The Christian sectors would be more tolerant of EC businesses, morals, and technology. Punks passing through would not face the religious prejudice evident in places like Turkey. Likewise, the Muslim sectors would have an easier time engaging in trade with the nomads of the blighted lands to the east. Also, they would be a nice buffer to goods being sent to Syria which might not be allowed to pass through their ports for various reasons. Even if the Syrian / Israeli occupation did not end, a free city of Beirut would be a perfect place for the various sides in the conflict to meet and negotiate, a new Casablanca if you would.

  17. I would still however warn against jettisoning the idea of the EU (EC) trying to come to some sort of agreement with its southern neighbors.


    I am not jettisoning this idea at all, I am merely suggesting that a nuclear Libya may not fit in to the proposal. General al-Gaddafi is well known for his rhetoric, and has routinely been accused of using terrorists to further his own agenda. If his government was approached by the EC to enter in to some sort of partnership as a junior member, would he be the type to demand a more equal footing based on the threat of his nuclear arsenal? Further, given the armed reaction to illegal immigrants by EC forces as early as 1994 (Eurosource Plus) I am inclined to wonder how cooperative Libya would be to overtures from the EC. Part of the history of the game is a dirtier, nastier world than what we currently live in, which is why I can see the EC taking part in the conflict only after it has clearly gone beyond the point of no return. And even then only in a very limited manner to try and secure their interests in the remnants of North Africa.



    To begin with, the African Sourcebook is not canon, and while it is a good resource to begin with, I would take some of what it says with a grain of salt. When you say that the EU may have had a small hand in the situation in Libya, does it expressly come out and say that they used their nukes in the attack?


    I acknowledge that the African Sourcebook is not canon. However, I was under the understanding that this thread was an attempt to garner ideas that could be used in creating another fan based sourcebook for detailing the Middle East - a creation which would, likewise, not be canon.



    You are aware that Nuclear material can be tracked to its country of origin?


    I knew you could track nuclear material, but I was not aware that there were forensic techniques for identifying the material once it had been detonated. I did find quite a bit of information about these abilities and techniques at this site:




    and the most compelling statement I found in the article was - Following a nuclear explosion, trained forensics teams would need to promptly gather highly radioactive samples from fallout and from the atmosphere. These samples then would have to be safely and promptly transported to United States and possibly other laboratories. Close coordination among the FBI (if the explosion occurs in the United States)

    and/or local authorities (if elsewhere), first responders, and forensics teams is necessary. Given a full shooting war involving multiple devices across the entire Middle East, followed by armed conflict (possible to infer, but again not noted in the canon) how would you get teams in to collect the samples promptly? Also, given what is canon, who would care? The US has just had martial law imposed, so news would be filtered in the first place, and in the second place if you are trying to keep your family in Chicago from starving do you really care about the Muslims and Jews attempting to eradicate each other? The EC is hit hard by hurricanes and spring tides leaving hundreds of thousands without shelter - would they really believe anyone who accused their government of aiding the conflagration? With South America, Africa, and Asia embroiled in there own conflicts, which nations would have the time or desire to look beyond the facade of this conflict?



    A sticky situation at best. Adding nuclear involvement to the mix is just a recipe for disaster…at least for France. Nuclear annihilation would not induce these countries to back off. It would be a call to arms for Islamic militants.


    That was why I suggested the EC only became involved after everything was beyond repair, and only in a manner that would allow them to target the strongest of the militant camps which might have been in the eastern Algerian zone. The situation would allow the EC to strike specific, high priority targets while deflecting the blame on the Israeli / Arab conflict.



    I don’t think that these would really be kamikaze bombers. The reference may be to older style nuclear payloads that are dropped from strategic bombers rather than deployed as warheads on a missile or rocket. Many of the countries in the region had either US or Soviet made aircraft including some long range bombers. Crashing into a target (kamikaze-style) is not the most effective use of a nuclear warhead...unless it's a nuclear tipped bunker buster. For the greater number of nuclear warheads an air burst maximizes the destructive power of the device (shockwave and EMP blast).


    The language led me to believe it meant kamikaze, or why use the term suicide bomber? A long range bomber loaded with 10 nuclear bombs is an easy target, but 10 fighters each carrying one bomb accompanied by 30 identical fighters acting as a screen / decoy increases your chances of hitting the target, even though the delivery system is, in and of itself, more ineffective.



    I should note that I am a bonfide conspiracy theorist, so I view all of the Cyberpunk storyline through these tinted glasses. And that may be why I take a darker view of what actions people might take, or are capable of.



  18. No, the date is not canon. I chose it because you can easily google Ramadan and then attach that as the date, so it was just totally random.


    I do not take in to account many of the real history events after the late '80's, such as Total S.A. and the French support of Libya, simply because of the alternate timeline in the game. The increased power the EC enjoys in the Cyberpunk history might have steered a course away from these actions. In the alternate environment we can hypothesize a half dozen reasons why there is this shift in policy.



    As for the EC involvement, it was only in regard to Libya, not the entire conflict. Based on the write-up in the African Conflict Sourcebook on Datafortress, I noted that the eastern border of Algeria suffered some damage as a result of the attacks on Libya and insinuated that perhaps the EU had a small hand in this in order to assist their moves in Algeria, Tunisia, and Morocco. Once it became evident that Libya was going to be devastated in a shooting war, why not make the most of the situation? This would play in to helping form the Euro-Med Zone since the true wild card would be removed from the deck. There is also an argument to be made for the possibility that the EU would argue that if Libya is totally wiped out fast enough, perhaps the other nations would be so shocked as to back off from the brink they stood on, thus saving their investments in places like Iran. Similar to the discussion that Dresden was so badly devastated at the end of WWII as a warning to Russia, not simply as an error on the part of the US and Britain.



    The US involvement would be small, as I said maybe one or two subs. This occurs just after martial law is enacted in 1996, so it might just be the new military government flexing it's muscles to the EU. More likely though, it would be a calculated move to keep Israel - our one true ally in the region - alive and prevent the EU from making the Mediterranean their private lake via the EU-Med Zone. A lot of mileage can be made diplomatically by coming to the aid of a friend when others stand by and watch - or can be accused of aiding the opposition. The scar across the American psyche vis-a-vis the '93 bombing of New York, and the '94 Pittsburgh accident dictates that this assistance is kept to a low enough level that it can not be proved officially, yet provides the necessary messages to Israel and the EC. Publicly it's all about plausible deniability while privately it's about who's got your back.


    I agree that Iraq would make Iran their primary target and that they would not have the means for delivering long range nuclear payloads through missles. The Future Shock timeline in the main book has the following passage :


    Only Egypt, Syria, and Israel survived intact; their aircraft were able to shoot down the incoming suicide bombers.


    This seems to indicate that Egypt and Syria were mostly targeted by other Arab nations as Israel would use missles or artillery to deliver nuclear payloads, while Iraq and Iran would likely resort to kamikaze bombers for their long range targets.



  19. Can anyone pass along views / experiences / preferences of either Campaign Cartographer or Dundjinni? I've been looking to pick up one of these programs to help lay out a city and some particular buildings for my campaign. Any comments, good or bad, about either of these programs would be greatly appreciated.





  20. Being new to the board I don't want to step on any toes since this seems to be a project of the upper echelons, but if I might throw out a few pieces for consideration I would like to -



    As described in the timeline - tensions are escalating throughout the area. Rumors suggest that the Iraqi's have purchased nuclear missles from the renegade Soviets and Eastern Europeans looking to make fast cash (these rumors turn out to be true). There is also talk that Libya is trying to secure it's own weapons from the same sources. On January 10th, 1997 (the first day of Ramadan), the port of Tobruk is engulfed in a mushroom cloud. Everyone quickly begins to point fingers at who is responsible - but the most popular theory in the West is that a weapon bought from the Sovs detonates while being delivered. Is this the result of mis-handling, decaying weaponry, or a black ops by someone opposed to Libya going nuclear? And that wouldn't be a short list - the Israelis, Americans, and even the Europeans might be the top of this list, but there would also be many African nations unhappy at seeing their neighbor gain such power over them.


    Regardless of how, why or who, the fallout across the Middle East is just as hot as that falling on Tobruk. The Islamic nations begin rattling their swords and decrying the heathen Zionists. The Israeli's deny any part in the situation, but warn loudly that they are prepared to defend themselves against the zealots on the pulpits. Since all militaries are already on high alert because of the local tensions it only takes one small incident - an unscheduled flight, a non-responsive airplane entering airspace, or even the appearance of a meteor large enough to be picked up on someone's radar suddenly - and everything spirals. The missles begin flying, but the Islamic nations are not unified in their strikes. For every missle that Iran targets Israel with, they have also targeted one against their own allies to prevent them from being too powerful after the exchange. Iraq likewise, has used 1/3 of their small supply to strike at Iranian targets, 1/3 sent against Israel, and 1/3 against political opponents in Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Yemen, and Libya. Israel has launched a full strike on everyone - secretly supplemented by one or two US subs off the coast, thus making their strikes even more powerful. Do some of the European nations also add a bit to the conflagration in Libya in an attempt to cow Algeria?


    Libya is hit the hardest. Not only are major cities and economic centers hit, but the large desert regions are also targeted in an attempt to wipe out the terrorist training camps said to litter the dunes. Israel weathers the storm better than most due to their anti-missle systems bought from the US. The Islamic nations are not as lucky as their top government officials have been wiped out either by the nukes, or Mossad hit teams, and local governments are not prepared to handle the catastrophe. In some parts, military units carry out orders issued prior to the launchings and attack key targets in neighboring countries which only adds to the damage. With the most powerful members gone, factional fighting breaks out for control of the various nations. Soon areas see an increase in violence between the different sects of the religion - as witnessed in Iraq these last few years, and during the Iran-Iraq war from 80-88 - or between differing religions in places like Lebanon. It's not long before national groups begin to make power grabs for land and independence - such as the Kurds in northern Iraq and southern Turkey (with limited, tactical nuclear strikes deployed by the Turks), and the Palestinians in occupied lands and refugee camps throughout the Middle East. Powerful military units, government centers, and economic supplies (oil) become the targets of enemy WMD's and tactical nukes deployed by the Israeli's.


    Based on maps of the region, population centers are densely located along coastal regions and major water sources. If the water sources are now polluted by nuclear fallout and residual biological agents, how far can you travel across the desert regions? If the cities that were the center of transport and economic viability are destroyed what is worth sending to this area? If you are unable to reach the natural resource that made the area rich, why bother going there? This does not mean the area is completely de-populated. The Bedouin are thriving in there nomadic culture, and powerful military and religious leaders have survived in small compounds and cities dotted across the region.


    And yet the talk of the "sheet of glass" persists. Could this be the result of Corporate disinformation by companies like Petrochem, SovOil, and Biotechnica trying to discourage people from exploring the area and discovering that they are actually still getting the resources? Maybe the oil fields that survived have been split between Petrochem and SovOil by agreement, and the fertile areas of the Euphrates given over to Biotechnica. Low-level Corp espionage and warfare takes place, but they refrain from anything too out of control for fear of involving outside nations who will want a piece.


    Just how I've always pictured it, and played it in my campaigns.

  21. A key building in the sector would have to be the bath house. These are very popular in eastern european cultures. In game terms it is a fantastic place for both sides of the street to meet and discuss important issues. It is neutral territory as neither side wants to see the place despoiled, shut down, or destroyed. It can be as chauvanistic or co-ed as the GM desires, and provides a low weapon environment where characters have to use wit and guile. Perfect place to meet your party fixer, or for your fixer pc to base himself out of.

  22. Greetings and salutations! I have recently returned to the dark streets of the CP genre after almost 15 years away from the scene. I must say that without the information here and on DataFortress I would not be as happy with my campaign as I am. Thanks to all of you for keeping this game alive.



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