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  1. I'm watching this right; it's very Cyberpunk: like, Cyberpunk meets District-9. 

     

    Jodi Foster is good in this and a great actress. 

    William Fichtner, is, um, his creepy self.  

    And Sharlto Copley's character surprised me. 

  2. I made up a few character life-paths on ArcadyCyberpunk generator; I saved it when Geocities went down.

     

    It's the year, 2288 (I got inspired because that was my kill-count in Tiberian-Sun):  I'm not sure how to express this darker, darker future, but, it's not Star-Trek; I kinda want to redesign her clothes; she's too modern, I tried to make the fashion of the future hideous.  I combined '80's flare with some future-stuff. She's a mob-boss, Indian-American. 

     

    And I'm not entirely sure I want to use Cyberpunk to generate these NPCs: I have Blue Planet.  She might be good in Chameleon Electric's Babylon 5 system.  But, I'm certainly not using Heavy-Gear's RPG-system (don't like).  

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  3. The reason my friend got drugs, is she helped a guy get off of being drunk/drugged all the time, but, they guy that drugged her, was using that guy as his meal-ticket, hitting him up, when he was drugged, for money,etc. and he was pissed off he couldn't use him anymore.  From now on, every time she sees that guy, that drugged her, she's going to kick is butt and eventually, he won't want to be around the area anymore. 

  4. I thought I'd try an ACPA from the Max. Met. Rules:  This is a Starship-Troopers, suit. 

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    The Advanced Reflex-Control is a non-cybernetic way of controlling the suit; you just get in and it mimics and reproduces your movement, as if you're wearing clothes (as per Starship Troopers book); when they fail their integrity-test, when taking damage, they cease to function, so, an arm can get knocked out or a leg. 

    The biggest-problem, was the jet-pack.  This is the most basic-design with just a rifle and grenades (the pic is actually from a Flammer-unit). 

    When making the weapons, I had to kind of guess on the new sizes for Recoiless-Rifles and rockets as per ACPA-rules. 

    Costs: Most weapons here are mass-produced, included the suit, so everything's 20% off!!!  And I have to convert it to Federation-Credits.  

    Weapons

    Standard Rifle
    +1/5D6(6.5mm)/200/32/400M/1Spc./6kg/[SP: 20 / SDP: 10] 960eb

    Heavy Rifle
    0/6D10(12.7mm)/100/20/550M/2Spc./30kg/[SP: 25 / SDP: 30] 1600eb

    Flame-Thrower
    -1/2D10/10/1/10M/1Spc./5kg/Spc: 1/[SP: 20 / SDP: 10] 1500eb

    Grenades
    0/7D6(5M Burst)/10/1/Throw/10kg/Spc: 0.5/[SP: 20 / SDP: 15] 24eb

    Shoulder Rocket-Launcher 
    -2/6D10(50mm)/Burst:3M/4/4/500M/33kg/Spc: 3[SP: 20 / SDP: 50]  1400eb

    Shoulder Recoiless-Rifle
    0/6D10(60mm)/Burst:3M/5/1/500M/12kg/25kg/Spc: 1.5/[SP: 15 / SDP: 17] 9600eb

    Shoulder Laser-Cannon
    +2/1-1D10AP/30/2/300M/40kg/3Spc[SP: 25 / SDP: 10] 80,000eb

  5. On 19/10/2023 at 02:19, senior officer Mikael van Atta said:

    2013-era sourcebooks listed 7,62mm as 5d6 - but when it was about 7,62x39mm M43. Which is an intermediate cartrige, though there are "light machineguns" using it (things like RPK or RPD, for example). It is still enough to chew through a soft-skin vehicle (which means anything that isn't "bulletproof" or, preferably, armored to withstand this level of threat).

    It still listed 7,62mm at 6d6+2 damage for rifle cartriges like 7,62x51mm NATO or 7,62x54mmR Mosin, used in medium machineguns. IRL, a medium machinegun (like MG3, M60, FN MAG/M240, or the Eastern Bloc favourite, PK/PKM will use).  This is a weapon that can chew softskin vehicles form a distance, and if loaded with AP ammo and close enough, will harm lightly armored vehicles (things like scout cars... or the rear door of a BMP-1 IFV!). 

    Have some relative STANAG 4569 armor resiliency requirements.

     

    The BMP-1 should have a SP: 30 or 40, which would mean the rear-door has a SP: 15. That's enough to stop small-arms fire and get an infantry-squad into battle; say, isn't the fuel-tank located on the rear-door?  The crew can keep warm at night and have enough fire for a light-time!

    We did to a WW2 version of CP:2020 game once. I think I got 7.62mm = 5D6 from Old Guns Never Die section in the rule-book. 

  6. Thinking about this the other day; so, using the 2013 scale of 7.62mm rifle damage being 5D6 per round, then if you divided 12.7mm damage by two, the same ratio you get with a 20mm round at 4D10, then you have 3D10. Both rounds do 30 points of damage max.  Except the 12.7mm can damage vehicles, so, it kind of makes sense.  I don't want to go as far as to say every 12.7mm round is AP, damage not-halved, unless using AP-rounds. The benefit of a heavy machine-gun round is it can blow through cover easily. 

  7. On 01/08/2023 at 02:22, senior officer Mikael van Atta said:

    Well, the vampires, werewolves etc were an interesting idea (and there were World of Darkness conversion rules to/from CP2020 somewhere, too). Can't tell if it was a well-executed idea, really.

    But I believe it to be a moot point, since you aren't looking for vampire rules - you said you were interested in psychic abilites rules. And Night's Edge is a n option there. Take from that book whatever you want - even if it is literally nothing at all.

    I actually like Ianus-games' versions of Cyberpunk.  One, they are known for Heavy Gear, which is science-fiction, but they handled the super-natural rather well. I've got Mekton's rules on pscionics, somewhere; I was reading it a bit during the summer(29 July it would seem). 

     

    One good think about Night's Edge, was the lethality  of the game: so, we all know CP:2020 when we started playing Vampire: the Masquerade and a lot of players figured out how to min-max to get wipey characters.   In NE, you get vampire-characters, but they're more like Cyber-psychos, than truly supernatural-undead in Vampire. 

    I'm reading a Dune-book that has psychics using a sort of mental-attack to gooify the brains of Full-Body Conversion Cyborgs.   There's a, "Mental-Assault", power, but to do what's described in the book, you need to roll a 40, which, even with ten-Psy, ten-Skill and ten-Luck, you still need to roll a ten to succeed.  Maybe another power like pyrokinesis was used; oh, and after the psychic-assault, the psychic, um died as well. 

  8. This guy that's planning on blackmailing a charity, told me that I'm blackmail-proof; whatever video of the dirt someone has on me, I'd just pull out an even worse video and show every one. 

     

    On of my friend's got drugged.  A guy put some fentanyl into her soda and she had to be sent to the ER and narcanned. The word on the streets is he does that to a lot of people; he either robs them or tries to have his way with them.  Good news is he's disappeared.  She's got a stalker-cop that was asking her about him.  

  9. On 31/07/2023 at 23:45, senior officer Mikael van Atta said:

    Does the line-art have to be Brazilian to be used to depict a Brazilian-made vehicle?

    It should have the same feel as the art in the original Maximum Metal book. 

    For instance, the Japanese SDF Type 91IFV, found here https://www.mahq.net/type91ifv/. screams, "Maximum-Metal", and it just waiting for me to convert it to Cyberpunk 2020 rules, whereas futuristic anime Chinese-vehicles are hard to find. Sure, there's CGI and mixing it with an anime cartoon-image just doesn't have the right, "Feel". 

  10. I found a blog about this book here

    https://www.blackgate.net/blog/arcology-the-city-in-the-image-of-man/

     

    Well, not in the '70's, but in '98, I immediately mapped them into Cyberpunk 2020 Arcologies in this futuristic-version of Earth; the game went OK, but it was a little too, "Utopia", for the players; even the author of the book said there's no such thing as a utopia (same opinion held by Libertarian David Bergland). I should have just applied the arcologies, in a 2020 Cyberpunk-world. 

     

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    Edit: Addendum: Paolo Soleri uses a lot of pseudo-Cyberpunk terms like, ". . .America will be so crowed, that, the only open spaces will be filled with schizophrenic-vacationers and  Suburbanites forced into nomadism";  And, "Peripatetics", which means people that wander from place to place, not staying in any one location for very long, which can describe some homeless and carnival-workers.  

  11. On 29/07/2023 at 23:30, senior officer Mikael van Atta said:

    Ah, good old LHX :D

    Thing is, stuff in that game was 1980s and older Soviet hardware. 

    Whether it is Soviets, or Chinese, or Indians, or Brazilians who are going to build budget-friendly military hardware in the hypothetical "future" (and Brazilians have some pretty nifty things on offer already), that's your call.

    Well, I can't create a military-vehicle for Max. Metal, unless I have line-art, and the only line-art I can find that's Brazilian is a Multiple Rocket-launcher called, Astros?. I can see that being effective 5" artillery-rockets. 

  12. On 29/07/2023 at 23:18, senior officer Mikael van Atta said:

    Hmm. 

    You might want to check Night's Edge and perhaps Grimm's Cybertales for CP2020-specific take on psionics (and some types of magic, if you want to include that as well, either as itself, or as an another category of psychic abilities).

    I'm way ahead of you on Night's Edge (the vampires in that book really suck).  And Grimm's, is perfect for any Cyberpunk 2020 game as it's fully of psychotic and mental-illness rules. which should be fairly common in 2020, well, it was common in the real, 2020. 

  13. So, I'm still thinking of this; I recently found my LHX manual with loads of line-art and specs for Soviet-vehicles.  A few nights ago, I woke up thinking about how I could design military-vehicles that, were just good enough to do their job, and cheap and mass-producible, as possible. 

  14. On 25/07/2023 at 23:19, senior officer Mikael van Atta said:

    One: not me.

    Two: why not? Give it a try and tell us how it went :)

    I've got it, but, it's been ages since I've looked into Fuzion and well, I like CP:2020 better. But, for CyberGen, I'd use Fuzion just like I'd use AD&D for Oriental Adventures and not 5th edition. Captures the essence.

    One thing, I don't like about Mekton's Pscionics rules, is that, you invest all the points, for a chance, yes, chance, to have pscionics.  I mean, why can't a PC just, choose to have pscionics rather than a roll; unless of course, the character mortality is so high, eventually, you're new character will have pscionics to enjoy as short as they live. 

     

    On 26/07/2023 at 20:25, Rockwolf66 said:

    I have the game but I have yet to play it. Mind you I don't have a good local gaming community.

     

    My local gaming-community, only gambles with dice. 

  15. Quotes and stories from interactions with people and the homeless.

    Chick: "So, this young kid, roles up on a bicycle, shows a gun in his pocket and tries to rob us".

    Me:  "Really?  He's rollin' up on a bunch of junkies on the street?"

    Chick: "I got really pissed-off so I said, "I've got something for you", and then I pull out my ax and baseball-bat".

    Me: "That's not a good way to use those as weapons, besides he had a gun".

    Chick: "Yeah, but he didn't know how to use it and he got scared and rolled off".

    Me: "You coulda got a bike and gun".

  16. And pantries are places were they give out food. Usually, only groceries and not cooked-food.  It's common for a specific-day to be announced and a give out, with a line of cars waiting to get a free box of food.  The contents of each box varies, but, usually canned and dry-goods with some organizations giving out kinda-fresh veggies and meat.  We have so much food here, its ridiculous.  

     

    Update: The guys have a colourful name for the city's operation, the, "Shit-Shack", because of the low-quality and repetition of food. And they still don't have coffee. 

    I still have my contacts, so I can get stuff; today I got donuts from a mom&pop shop and passed them out there, since they don't give out sweets there anymore.  And I got a bunch of ice-cream and TV-dinners from Walmart; I love it when they get the wrong product for their store; it's cheaper to donate it than to send it back to their distribution-centers.  I gave out the reasoning that the ice-cream would melt before I got it back to the walk-in freezer. 

    They haven't torn down the old building and they are building an additional one, which, I hope, is a site of a permanent facility to feed the homeless; now, that's my politics.  The city isn't getting away with removing services just because a large corporation wants to move in next-door and the environmental-impact will effect the original-occupants.  

  17. So I just picked up a book at the local-library, but entering search-term, "Cyberpunk", and got, Rewired: the Post-Cyberpunk Anthology. It's a collection of short-stories about what comes after Cyberpunk.  The introduction did make a point that all the guns, tools, cyberware etc. had to come from somewhere; that means many people have been manufacturing their, "Toys". 

    I read the first one, Bicycle Repairman by Bruce Sterling, written in '97.  It' has a slow start, then gets into Zones, squatters, televisual phones, the President of NAFTA (not the USA anymore)(Year 2037) and the Tennessee Senator, who's 117 years old, and been in office for decades, whose brain is much and is run by his campaign-staff and how that relates to a repair-shop in Neo-Chattanooga.

     

  18. So, I'm digging through my old saved archives of Cyberpunk websites and found this; I saved it on a Tuesday, Feb., 2000. 

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    The BlackHammer CyberPunk Project


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    A collection of 20th Century guns with descriptions for your retro-chick solos. All these guns fire cased ammunition (duh) and are generally available "new" from autolathes and in imitation versions for the prices listed. A good quality one requires a dif 15 StreetWise roll to get (roll in secret), otherwise it'll be -1 WA (1-5) or -1 REL (6-10) and to notice this before you get it requires a dif 20 WeaponsTech roll (sucks when the guys at the Autolathe use generic High Speed Steel instead of Titanium alloys, eh choombah?)

     

    Actual originals in mint condition will cost significantly more. Extremely Common weapons will cost the list price, Common weapons will cost at least double. Poor availability weapons will cost 3-4 times the list price and Rare weapons at least 5 times.

     

    Worse condition weapons can always be found... Some people in 2020 have been using Automags since the early 80's, and they still fire today after 175,000 rounds... albeit they may be a lot more worn and have their own little "tricks". You can pay half the price listed below for an authentic gun and will have -1 REL (1-5) or -1 WA (6-10). Quarter the price will give you two rolls as above.

     

    As always, the stats on this page reflect my opinion on the weapons in question, and may not coincide with yours. So please edit the stats to suit your own opinions. Full credit for this article has to go to the original Friday Night Firefight for including old guns instead of 21st Century weapons, so my original CyberPunk games had almost no "new" guns and was instead populated entirely with 1980's throwbacks and retreads, and to the section in the CP2020 rulebook entitled "Old Guns Never Die", from which the name of the article was culled.

     

    So far the article details only handguns due to time constraints, but it contains a total of 156 handguns from the last part of the 20th century. Updates to this file will be mentioned here as well as on the updates page.

     

    American Model 6 Derringer
    PST -2 P C .45 Colt 2 2 ST 20m 250eb
    Two-shot derringer chambered in .45 Colt Long, but which can also load .410 Shotshells.

    AMT .380 Backup
    PST -1 P C .380ACP 5+1 2 ST 30m 350eb
    Concealable .380 Stainless steel automatic pistol

    AMT .45 Backup
    PST -1 P C .45ACP 5+1 2 ST 30m 450eb
    Concealable .45 Stainless steel Double Action Only automatic

    AMT Automag III
    PST +1 J P .30 Carbine 8+1 2 ST 50m 500eb
    Very large stainless steel automatic firing the .30 cartridge from the M-1 Carbine.

    AMT Automag IV
    PST +0 J P .45 Win 7+1 2 ST 50m 700eb
    Very large stainless steel automatic in .45 Winchester Magnum

    AMT Automag V
    PST -1 J P .50AE 5+1 2 ST 50m 700eb
    Very large stainless steel automatic in the mighty .50 AE

    AMT Hardballer
    PST +0 J P .45ACP 7+1 2 ST 50m 400eb
    M1911A1 clone

    AMT Javelina
    PST +0 J P 10mm 7+1 2 ST 50m 400eb
    M1911A1 clone in 10mm

    AMT On-Duty
    PST +1 J C 9mm 13+1 2 ST 50m 500eb
    Another classic "wondernine" from the 80's from the makers of the famous Automag. Also available in .40S&W

    Auto Mag
    PST 1 J P .44AutoMag 7+1 2 ST 50m 600eb
    Limited edition stainless steel automatic using the proprietary .44 AutoMag round

    Beretta 92-F
    PST +1 J C 9mm 15+1 2 VR 50m 300eb
    1980's and 90's sidearm of the US Army, one of the original "wondernines"

    Beretta 92-F Compact
    PST 0 P C 9mm 13+1 2 VR 50m 300eb
    Shortened version of the 92F, designed to be lighter and more concealable.

    Beretta 951
    PST 0 J P 9mm 8+1 2 ST 50m 250eb
    Predecessor to the 92 series. Licensed copies were made throughout the middle east during the 50's

    Beretta Cougar
    PST +0 J C 9mm 10+1 2 VR 50m 500eb
    Medium-sized pistol by Beretta (much smaller than the M92) also available in .40S&W (10 shots) and .45 ACP (8 shots)

    Beretta Model 96
    PST +1 J C .40S&W 15+1 2 VR 50m 400eb
    .40S&W Edition of the Beretta Model 92F, looks identical in all ways.

    Beretta 3032 Tomcat
    PST +0 P C .32ACP 7+1 2 ST 40m 300eb
    Very light Pocket Concealed automatic pistol in the diminutive .32ACP round.

    Browning .25ACP Ladyman's
    PST -2 P C .25ACP 6+1 2 ST 30m 250eb
    Classic pocket or purse pistol

    Browning BDM
    PST +1 J P 9mm 15+1 2 VR 50m 500eb
    Ambidextrous "wondernine" that can be set to operate as a single action revolver also

    Browning Hi-Power
    PST 1 J C 9mm 13+1 2 VR 50m 250eb
    The original "wondernine", has seen military use in over 40 countries since 1935

    Buffalo Derringer
    PST -2 P C .357Mag 2 2 ST 20m 200eb
    Two-barreled derringer, chambered in .357 Magnum. Not quite enough to down a buffalo though…

    Calico M-110
    PST 0 J C .22LR 100+1 2 ST 50m 250eb
    The first pistol to use the unique Calico helical feed system, loading either 100 or 50 .22 LR rounds

    Calico M-950
    PST 1 J C 9mm 100+1 2 ST 50m 350eb
    Available with 50 round magazines also

    Ceska-Zbrojovka Cz-100
    PST +0 J C 9mm 13+1 2 ST 50m 300eb
    DAO polymer-framed handgun from Ceska-Zbrojovka, "point and shoot" with no manual safety. Also available in .40S&W (10 rounds)

    Ceska-Zbrojovka Cz-75
    PST 1 J C 9mm 15+1 2 VR 50m 350eb
    The eastern block competition to the Beretta. Argued by some to be a superior handgun. Also available in .40S&W (11 rounds)

    Ceska-Zbrojovka Cz-92
    PST -1 P C .25ACP 8+1 2 ST 20m 200eb
    DAO Pocket handgun with no manual safety.

    Ceska-Zbrojovka Cz-97B
    PST +0 J C .45ACP 10+1 2 VR 50m 350eb
    Ceska-Zbrojovka's .45ACP for the American Market, quite similar to the Colt 1911 Commander, but with a double-stacked magazine

    Chinese Type 67
    PST 0 J R 7.65mm 9+1 2 ST 50m 800eb
    Assassination Weapon. Fires a subsonic round through a very efficient silencer.

    Colt .45 "Peacemaker"
    PST 0 J R .45Colt 6 1 VR 50m 400eb
    Single Action revolver that "won the west"

    Colt All American 2000
    PST 0 J U 9mm 15+1 2 ST 50m 350eb
    The first American-made center-fire pistol with a polymer frame built on the heels of the Glock 17

    Colt Anaconda
    PST 1 J C .44Mag 6 2 VR 50m 400eb
    Large double-action revolver, often seen mounting scopes for hunting

    Colt Commander
    PST 0 P C .45ACP 7+1 2 ST 50m 350eb
    Shortened version of the M1911A1

    Colt Delta Elite
    PST +1 J C 10mm 8+1 2 ST 50m 600eb
    Colt M1911A1 design but made to fire the 10mm round. 9 round magazines are also available for it.

    Colt Diamondback
    PST 0 P C .357Mag 6 1 VR 50m 400eb
    Standard light revolver chambered in .357 but also firing .38Sp

    Colt M1911A1 "Government" Automatic
    PST 0 J C .45ACP 7+1 2 ST 50m 350eb
    Still in manufacture well beyond the year 2000, the classic 1911A1 is the standard .45ACP automatic seen worldwide

    Colt M1911A1 LongSlide
    PST 1 J C .45ACP 7+1 2 ST 50m 350eb
    The M1911A1 with a longer barrel. With some additional modification, this weapon is often seen in competitions

    Colt Python
    PST 1 J C .357Mag 6 1 VR 50m 300eb
    A heavy revolver also available chambered in .357 Magnum.

    Coonan Arms .357 Magnum
    PST +1 J P .357Magnum 8+1 1 ST 50m 700eb
    M1911A1-based design built for firing the rimmed .357 magnum load. Also available with compensators (ROF 2, 850eb)

    Coonan Arms .41 Magnum
    PST +1 J P .41 Magnum 7+1 1 ST 50m 750eb
    Basically the Coonan .357 in .41 Magnum, and no integral compensation.

    Desert Eagle .357 Magnum
    PST 1 J P .357Mag 9+1 2 ST 50m 1000eb
    The mark XIX Desert Eagles are interchangeable barrels and receivers on a standard frame

    Desert Eagle .41 Magnum
    PST 1 J P .41Mag 8+1 2 ST 50m 1000eb
    Available with barrels in .50AE, .44Magnum, .41Magnum and .357 Magnum

    Desert Eagle .44 Magnum
    PST 1 J P .44Mag 8+1 2 ST 50m 1000eb
    The mark XIX Desert Eagles are based on the design of the old Mk VII .50AE Desert Eagle

    Desert Eagle .50 AE
    PST 1 J P .50AE 7+1 2 ST 50m 1000eb
    Either the Mk VII or Mk XIX Desert Eagle in the biggest load ever

    Detonics Combat Master
    PST 0 P C .45ACP 6+1 2 ST 50m 600eb
    Small-frame commercial variant of the M1911A1, can also use the M1911A1's 7 round magazines (which protrude from the butt)

    Fabrique National FiveSeven
    PST +1 J P 5.7mm 20+1 2 ST 50m 400eb
    Double-action only automatic to fire the 5.7mm round (SS-190) designed for the FN-P90

    Freedom Arms .454 Casull
    PST 2 J P .454Mag 5 1 VR 50m 1500eb
    Classic rebuild of the Ruger BlackHawk or RedHawk single-action for the huge .454 round

    Glock Model 17
    PST 2 J C 9mm 19+1 2 VR 50m 400eb
    The original full-frame polymer handgun

    Glock Model 19
    PST 2 J C 9mm 15+1 2 VR 50m 400eb
    Mid-size version of the Glock 17

    Glock Model 20
    PST 1 J P 10mm 15+1 2 VR 50m 450eb
    Full frame 10mm Glock

    Glock Model 21
    PST 1 J C .45ACP 13+1 2 VR 50m 500eb
    Full frame Glock in .45ACP

    Glock Model 22
    PST 1 J C .40S&W 15+1 2 VR 50m 450eb
    Full frame Glock in .40 Smith & Wesson

    Glock Model 23
    PST 1 J C .40S&W 13+1 2 VR 50m 450eb
    Mid-size version of the Glock 22

    Glock Model 24
    PST 2 J C .40S&W 15+1 2 VR 50m 500eb
    Long-slide version of the Glock 22

    Glock Model 25
    PST 2 J R .380ACP 10+1 2 VR 50m 500eb
    Mid-sized Glock in .380 ACP (9mm Short), only ever sold in Europe, quite rare

    Glock Model 26
    PST 1 P P 9mm 10+1 2 VR 50m 500eb
    Compact edition Glock in 9mm

    Glock Model 27
    PST 1 P P .40S&W 9+1 2 VR 50m 500eb
    Compact model in .40 S&W

    Glock Model 28
    PST 1 P R .380ACP 10+1 2 VR 50m 500eb
    Compact model in .380 ACP (9mm Short), only ever sold in Europe, quite rare

    Glock Model 29
    PST 1 P P 10mm 10+1 2 VR 50m 500eb
    Compact model in 10mm

    Glock Model 30
    PST 1 P P .45ACP 9+1 2 VR 50m 500eb
    Compact edition Glock in .45ACP

    Glock Model 31
    PST 2 J P .357sig 15+1 2 VR 50m 500eb
    Full-frame Glock in .357 Sig

    Glock Model 32
    PST 2 J P .357sig 13+1 2 VR 50m 500eb
    Mid-sized version of the Model 31 in .357 Sig

    Glock Model 33
    PST 1 P P .357sig 9+1 2 VR 50m 500eb
    Compact model in .357 Sig

    Glock Model 34
    PST 2 J P 9mm 19+1 2 VR 50m 500eb
    Full-frame high-capacity 9mm, late 90's update of the Model 17

    Glock Model 35
    PST 2 J P .40S&W 15+1 2 VR 50m 500eb
    Full-frame high-capacity .40S&W

    Glock Model 36
    PST +0 P P .45ACP 6+1 2 VR 40m 400eb
    Very small glock, with a single-stack magazine, making it the thinnest glock ever.

    Hammerli M280 Target
    PST +2 J P .22LR 5+1 2 VR 50m 850eb
    A specialized target pistol with ergonomic custom grips

    Heckler & Koch P4 .22
    PST -1 J P .22LR 8+1 2 ST 50m
    Heckler & Koch P4 .32
    PST -1 J P .32ACP 7+1 2 ST 50m 450eb
    A small pistol from the 70's, designed to be quickly rechambered to .25ACP or .22LR

    Heckler & Koch P7M10
    PST 1 J P 10mm 11+1 2 VR 50m 400eb
    10mm edition of the H&K P7M13

    Heckler & Koch P7M13
    PST 2 J P 9mm 13+1 2 VR 50m 350eb
    H&K P7's are cocked by squeezing the grip, as the weapon has no external hammer for manual cocking

    Heckler & Koch P7M8
    PST 2 J P 9mm 8+1 2 VR 50m 300eb
    8-shot 9mm edition of the H&K P7M13

    Heckler & Koch P9S
    PST 1 J P .45ACP 7+1 2 VR 50m 350eb
    .45ACP version of the P9S

    Heckler & Koch P9S
    PST 1 J P 9mm 9+1 2 VR 50m 300eb
    9mm Automatic replaced by the H&K P7 series

    Heckler & Koch SP89
    PST 2 L R 9mm 20+1 2 VR 50m 500eb
    Double-action pistol built on the MP5K frame, semi-auto

    Heckler & Koch USP357 Compact
    PST +0 P P .357Sig 12+1 2 VR 50m 450eb
    The USP9 Compact in .357Sig

    Heckler & Koch USP40
    PST +1 J P .40S&W 13+1 2 VR 50m 450eb
    The H&K handgun for the 90's, .40S&W Edition of the USP9

    Heckler & Koch USP40 Compact
    PST +0 P P .40S&W 12+1 2 VR 50m 450eb
    The USP9 Compact in .40S&W

    Heckler & Koch USP45
    PST +1 J P .45ACP 12+1 2 VR 50m 450eb
    The H&K handgun for the 90's, .45ACP Edition of the USP9

    Heckler & Koch USP45 Compact
    PST +0 P P .45ACP 8+1 2 VR 50m 450eb
    The USP9 Compact in .45ACP

    Heckler & Koch USP45 Expert
    PST +2 J P .45ACP 12+1 2 VR 50m 550eb
    Long-barrel edition of the USP45, almost a match quality weapon without requiring customizing

    Heckler & Koch USP45 Match
    PST +2 J P .45ACP 12+1 3 VR 50m 650eb
    The USP45 Expert design but with integral compensation and porting for quick recoil control

    Heckler & Koch USP45 Tactical
    PST +1 J P .45ACP 12+1 2 VR 50m 450eb
    The USP45 pre-fitted for use with a silencer

    Heckler & Koch USP9
    PST +1 J P 9mm 15+1 2 VR 50m 450eb
    The H&K handgun for the 90's, a high-quality 9mm service weapon

    Heckler & Koch USP9 Compact
    PST +0 P P 9mm 13+1 2 VR 50m 450eb
    The USP9 in a more compact model with shorter barrel and pistol grip / magazine

    Intratec TEC-22
    PST +1 J C .22LR 20+1 2 ST 50m 200eb
    The TEC-99 design in .22LR. Both TEC's can use 32 round magazines also

    Intratec TEC-9
    PST +1 J E 9mm 20+1 2 UR 60m 200eb
    A cheap 9mm with the magazine in front of the grip, looks like a sub-gun.

    Kahr K9
    PST +0 P C 9mm 7+1 2 ST 40m 400eb
    Very small and slim-line combat handgun. Available in .40 S&W also (6 round magazine)

    Kel-TEC P-11
    PST +0 J C 9mm 10+1 2 ST 50m 310eb
    Very light polymer-framed automatic

    Kel-TEC P-32
    PST +0 P C .32ACP 7+1 2 ST 30m 250eb
    Very light and thin autopistol with a polymer composite frame.

    Kimber Polymer .45
    PST +1 J C .45ACP 14+1 2 VR 50m 600eb
    One of the best M1911A1 clones, with a polymer frame and large capacity magazine.

    Kimber Stainless Gold Match
    PST +1 J C .45ACP 14+1 2 VR 50m 650eb
    Just like the Kimber Polymer, but with a stainless steel slide. Also available in .40S&W (14 rounds), 9mm (18 rounds) and .38 Super (18 rounds)

    Llama Commanche
    PST 0 J C .44Mag 6 1 ST 50m 400eb
    A long-barreled stainless steel .44 Magnum revolver

    Llama Mini-Max Sub-Compact
    PST -1 P C .45ACP 10+1 1 ST 40m 310eb
    High capacity .45ACP with a very small frame.

    Llama Max-I Compact Deluxe
    PST +0 J C .45ACP 7+1 2 ST 50m 275eb
    Another M1911A1 Commander clone

    Luger 9mm
    PST 1 J C 9mm 8+1 2 ST 50m 250eb
    These 9mm automatics saw first use before WWII, noted for it's "grasshopper" action

    Magnum Research Mountain Eagle
    PST 2 J C .22LR 15+1 2 VR 50m 200eb
    Polymer-framed "plinking" pistol from the importers of the Desert Eagle. Available with 20 round mags also

    Makarov
    PST -1 P P 9mmSov 8+1 2 VR 40m 400eb
    Replacement for the TT-33 Tokarev's in Soviet service. Fires a proprietary 9mm Soviet round

    Mauser "Broomhandle"
    PST 1 J C 9mm 10+1 2 ST 50m 400eb
    One of the first Automatic Pistols. Uses an internal magazine that must be reloaded manually

    Micro Uzi
    PST 0 J P 9mm 20+1 2 UR 50m 300eb
    Uzi-designed pistol. Available also in .45ACP. With 25 or 30 round magazines it becomes L conceal.

    Norinco PenKnife
    PST -2 P R .22Short 3 2 ST 15m 200eb
    A folding pen-knife with a three-shot derringer in the handle.

    Norinco Type 86
    PST -2 P R .22LR 4 2 ST 15m 400eb
    Combat Knife with a four shot derringer in the hilt, firing two barrels on each side of the blade

    Para-Ordinance P12-45
    PST 0 J P .45ACP 11+1 2 ST 50m 450eb
    Canadian .45ACP, the P12-45 is almost the same size as the Colt Officer's but packs 12 rounds instead of 7

    Para-Ordinance P14-45 LDA
    PST +0 J P .45ACP 11+1 2 ST 50m 550eb
    1999 DAO automatic with only 5.5 lbs trigger pull, about the same as a SA automatic

    Ruger BlackHawk
    PST 1 J C .45 Colt 5 1 VR 50m 600eb
    Single action revolver, black of course

    Ruger GP-100
    PST 1 J C .357Mag 6 2 VR 50m 500eb
    Fairly typical stainless steel .357 Magnum revolver

    Ruger P85
    PST 0 J C 9mm 15+1 2 ST 50m 400eb
    A fair-quality 9mm autopistol (used by Antonio Banderas in Desperado)

    Ruger P90
    PST 0 J C .45ACP 7+1 2 ST 50m 400eb
    The Ruger P85 or P89 in .45 ACP

    Ruger P93
    PST -1 J C 9mm 15+1 2 ST 50m 400eb
    Compact model of the P85

    Ruger P94
    PST +0 J C 9mm 15+1 2 ST 50m 400eb
    Latest remake of the P85, Double Action Only, also available in .40S&W (12 round magazine)

    Ruger P95
    PST -1 P C 9mm 13+1 2 ST 40m 300eb
    Smallest of the 9mm Rugers, with a polymer frame.

    Ruger P97
    PST +0 J C .45ACP 7+1 2 ST 50m 400eb
    Sleeker version of the P90 .45 ACP Ruger with a polymer frame.

    SIG P-210-2
    PST 2 J C 9mm 8+1 2 VR 50m 400eb
    Considered by many to be the most accurate general use production handgun in the world

    SIG P220
    PST +1 J C .45ACP 7+1 2 VR 50m 250eb
    The classic P220 chambered in .45ACP, originally chamered in 9mm with an 8 round magazine

    SIG P226
    PST 1 J C 9mm 15+1 2 VR 50m 250eb
    High-quality update of the Swiss SIG-P220 (which only has an 8 round magazine).

    SIG P228
    PST +1 J C 9mm 13+1 2 VR 50m 450eb
    More ergonomic version of the SIG P226, adopted by the US military for officers with small hands

    SIG P229
    PST +1 J C .40S&W 12+1 2 VR 50m 500eb
    The SIG P226 in .40S&W or .357Sig. Made of heavier stock than the other, lighter SIGs

    SIG P230
    PST +1 J C .380ACP 7+1 2 VR 50m 250eb
    A lighter P220 in .380ACP (used by agent Scully in the X-Files)

    SIG P245
    PST +0 P C .45ACP 6+1 2 ST 50m 700eb
    Nice compact .45 by SIG-Sauer also available in .40S&W, .357Sig and 9mm (7, 7 and 8 rounds)

    SIG SP 2340 (SIG Pro)
    PST +1 J C .40S&W 12+1 2 VR 50m 600eb
    First polymer-framed SIG pistol, in .40S&W or in .357Sig (with exchangeable barrels).

    Sites M9
    PST +0 P C 9mm 9+1 2 ST 50m 250eb
    Slim-line Italian autopistol designed for ease of use and concealment. Also available in .40 S&W (the M40)

    Smith & Wesson ASP
    PST -1 P P 9mm 7+1 2 VR 50m 600eb
    Modified S&W M39 with shorter slide and barrel, and clear plastic grips to visually check ammo

    Smith & Wesson Ladysmith
    PST -1 P C 9mm 8+1 2 ST 40m 300eb
    9mm pistol designed for people with smaller hands who find double-stacked magazines and large ammo difficult

    Smith & Wesson Model 1076
    PST +1 J P 10mm 9+1 2 ST 50m 450eb
    Classic discontinued S&W 10mm automatic once adopted by the FBI

    Smith & Wesson Model 19 Combat Magnum
    PST 1 J C .357Mag 6 2 VR 50m 500eb
    Designed for the US Border Patrol, a small frame .357Magnum

    Smith & Wesson Model 29
    PST 1 J C .44Mag 6 1 VR 50m 400eb
    A large revolver in the popular .44Magnum. Sometimes seen with hunting scopes

    Smith & Wesson Model 296 AirLite
    PST -1 P C .44Spcl 5 2 VR 40m 400eb
    Titanium snub-nosed revolver in .44 Special

    Smith & Wesson Model 410
    PST +1 J C .40S&W 10+1 2 ST 50m 400eb
    Alloy-frame .40S&W Double Action carry gun.

    Smith & Wesson Model 442
    PST 0 P C .38Sp 5 2 VR 30m 350eb
    1994 re-make of the calssic model 642 .38 revolver. Comes with 2 or 3 inch barrel. The standard by which 5-shot .38 revolvers are measured.

    Smith & Wesson Model 469
    PST -1 P E 9mm 12+1 2 ST 50m 250eb
    Very easy gun to shoot and conceal

    Smith & Wesson Model 57
    PST 1 J C .41Mag 6 1 VR 50m 400eb
    Functionally identical to the model 29, this heavy revolver is chambered in .41 Magnum

    Smith & Wesson Model 610
    PST +0 J P 10mm 6 2 VR 50m 400eb
    Nice full-frame revolver designed for 10mm automatic pistol ammo, and can fire .40S&W also

    Smith & Wesson Model 625-2
    PST +0 J P .45ACP 6 2 VR 50m 400eb
    Full frame revolver designed to fire .45 Automatic Colt Pistol ammo instead of .45 Colt Long

    Smith & Wesson Model 908
    PST +0 J C 9mm 8+1 2 ST 50m 400eb
    Double-Action Only compact automatic in 9mm with a single-stacked magazine

    Smith & Wesson Model 910
    PST +0 J C 9mm 10+1 2 ST 50m 400eb
    The Smith & Wesson model 908 with a 10 round staggered magazine

    Smith & Wesson Model 4006
    PST +1 J C .40S&W 10+1 2 ST 50m 500eb
    The first automatic pistol chambered in .40S&W

    Smith & Wesson Model FB715-4C
    PST 1 J C .357Mag 6 3 VR 50m 500eb
    One of the first .357 revolvers factory-equipped with full recoil compensation (also available in .44 magnum)

    Smith & Wesson Sigma
    PST +1 J C 9mm 16+1 2 UR 50m 400eb
    Direct rip-off of the Glock 17 (but a lot more stylish and less well built) also available in .40 S&W (13 rounds)

    Smith & Wesson Sigma Subcompact
    PST -1 P C 9mm 7+1 1 ST 30m 300eb
    Ugly little squirt of a gun. Like a baby Sigma. Also available in .380 ACP with 6 round magazine

    Smith & Wesson SW99
    PST +1 J C 9mm 16+1 2 VR 50m 450eb
    Polymer-framed 9mm made in cooperation with Walther, looks like the Walther P99. Also available in .40S&W (10 rounds)

    Spectre
    PST 1 J C 9mm 50+1 2 ST 50m 600eb
    Civilian version of the Spectre submachine gun, holds the ammo in two staggered collumns instead of one. Also available in .40S&W

    Springfield Armoury .45 Super
    PST 1 J C .45Super 7+1 3 ST 50m 650eb
    Version of the M1911A1 with gas porting and designed to handle the new .45Super ammo in addition to standard .45ACP

    Springfield Omega
    PST +0 J P 10mm 8+1 2 UR 50m 300eb
    A troublesome 10mm automatic, but it also fired .40S&W flawlessly without rechambering.

    Steyr GB80
    PST 1 J P 9mm 18+1 2 ST 50m 300eb
    Another classic "wondernine" of the 20th Century

    Tangfolio / EAA Witness
    PST +1 J C 9mm 16+1 2 ST 50m 225
    Italian rip-off of the CZ-75 imported by EAA. Also available in .40 S&W, .45 ACP, .38 Super and 10mm with 10 round magazines)

    Taurus Model 431
    PST +0 J C .44Spcl 5 2 ST 50m 280eb
    Mid-Sized .44 Special revolver

    Taurus Model 445
    PST -1 P C .44Spcl 5 2 ST 40m 300eb
    Titanium snub-nosed version of the model 431

    Taurus Model 617
    PST -1 P C .357Mag 7 2 VR 40m 350eb
    Titanium snub-nosed revolver, pocket concealable, with a larger capacity than most full-frames!

    Taurus Model 669
    PST 0 J C .357Mag 6 3 VR 50m 450eb
    Stainless steel revolver with integral ported and relieved barrel. Released in 1993

    Taurus Raging Bull
    PST +1 J C .44Mag 6 2 VR 50m 500eb
    Huge stainless steel revolver

    Taurus Raging Hornet
    PST +2 J C .22LR 8 2 VR 50m 500eb
    The Raging Bull in .22LR

    The Beast
    PST -2 J R .50BMG 1 1 UR 50m 2000eb
    Home-made handgun firing heavy machine-gun ammo. Half the energy is wasted on flare, so it only deals 3D10+1 damage

    Tokarev TT-33
    PST 0 J P 7.63mm 8+1 2 ST 50m 250eb
    Soviet sidearm prior to the 50's.

    Tokarev TT-33 Domestic
    PST -1 J C 9mm 8+1 2 UR 50m 300eb
    Actually usually the Chinese Type 51 or 54, a copy of the TT-33 chambered in 9mm

    Vektor SP1 "Sport"
    PST +1 J C 9mm 11+1 3 ST 50m 400eb
    South African 9mm Service Pistol with integral permanent compensators

    Vektor SP2
    PST +1 J C .40S&W 11+1 2 ST 50m 350eb
    South African .40S&W Service Pistol

    Walther P-38
    PST 1 J C 9mm 8+1 2 ST 50m 200eb
    The German P38 was still manufactured in the 90's as the P1, and was being used in African militaries

    Walther PPK
    PST -1 P C .32ACP 7+1 2 ST 30m 250eb
    The PPK was made famous by Bond, but has seen use for ages as a concealable backup pistol. Also available in .380ACP

    Wilson "Stealth" .45 Conversion
    PST 0 J P .45ACP 7+1 2 ST 50m 900eb
    Converted .45 Colt Officer's with reduced wight and size, yet maintaining the standard accuracy

  19. I'm not sure about how much shrapnel either, but, usually, a missile-strike against an aircraft is enough to knock it out of the sky; one auto-cannon round doesn't seem to do that; it took about twenty to thirty 20mm hits on a bomber to bring it down in WW2. 

    It's not that I don't like penetration-system, but, I want to keep it into line ACPA rules and Firestorm as well as traditional-Cyberpunk. And I like die-roll for PCs; I can see using penetration-rules for NPCs and background battles, when I just need a result or using the Making It Dead Simple option in Fire-Storm. 

    We used proximity rules for missile strike using the grenade miss table and multiplying by the number of points missed and to equal meters, depending on range; I forgot our exact system, but, with even if a missile barely missed, an aircraft was still in the blast-radius and the same went with auto-cannons with their 1M burst. We had an 85mm AAA that, actually, scored a direct-hit on a jet's engine, which depleted the SDP and stunned the pilot, which, was making a strafing-run and unable to pull-up. 

    And there is a flaw with proximity-fuses; if you miss with a 20mm Vulcan by only 1, that's 100 4d10(half of 8d10, 1M burst), right next to your aircraft, which is worse than barely hitting with a one (10 8d10s).

  20. On 11/12/2022 at 12:58, senior officer Mikael van Atta said:

    Well, the single weapon under the nose could still be an autocannon. Several modern-ish fighter aircraft gave been configured that way. Keep in mind that Maximum Metal apparently got fixed on ground-role autocannons as the rules basis, while there are revolver cannons - or even short-recoil operated cannons like the Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-30-1 (supposedly set for a 1500 RPM rate of fire customarily: that'd be a Cyberpunk RoF of 80...) - that fire much faster.

    . . .

    • ARES
    • Skorpion (ok, it never went to the prototype level, just a mockup. But I have a soft spot for it since the 90s)

    They were both intended for the general SABA concept: light ground-attack and helicopter-killer (in Cyberpunk reality, that would include AVs as well. And given where the current reality is, also drones) battlefield aircraft.

    The F-20 had dual M39 cannons with the same ROF of the GSh-30-1, but, the pic. clearly showed only one cannon; since I already allocated 2 spaces, I went with the 20mm Gat, to keep on Max-Met. standards (though, I'm set on 4D10 per round; one 20mm round isn't doing more than a SAM!!!! Dang-dabbit!

    I like the ARES and the Skorpion reminds me of the Turbo Fan-Jet from Macross.  I did, back in the day, convert that, along with most of Robotech's vehicles, to Max. Met. 

    Wasn't the Kfir based off of a French-design?  

  21. On 10/12/2022 at 07:41, TigerGuard said:

    In our locale, a food pantry is a place that provides non-perishable foods to people in need - whether that means homeless or low income. Problem is that then you have to be able to cook the items, and the provided bags / boxes often don’t contain all the required ingredients - like butter for boxed macaroni and cheese. 

    The very first question I would ask when someone comes up to me for a box of food is, "Do you have refrigeration and a stove?"; some don't, but a lot of people have, at least access to one (motel-room or the local liquor store will let them use their microwave).  I regularly give boxes of perishable to the homeless, that includes things like eggs, bacon, meat and fresh-veggies with butter; I tell them to use it all up today or tomorrow. 

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